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post #16246 of 19918
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You did not have a middleman though, correct?

Of course not!
post #16247 of 19918
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Well I'm sure at 195m you get a huge discount compared to only 60m. Also, who handled your transaction/did they have a previous relationship with the manufacturer?

Yes, I think we got a huge discount because of the high volume, however, also from my experience, I got a pretty good discount even I just order 60m.
And since we didn't earn a penny from the sell, and don't have any middleman, we handle everything by ourselves. That is how to cut the cost as low as possible.
post #16248 of 19918
Given participants in these ad-hoc fabric group buy are getting better value than buying individual cut lengths, I find it quiet unfair to criticize those organizer who decide to make a profit in order to honour their time spent and effort in getting a better deal for everyone.

Why people must insist these kind individual to do pro-bono work for the sole sake of your personal benefits (being getting an already better but not the rock button best deal)?
post #16249 of 19918
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Given participants in these ad-hoc fabric group buy are getting better value than buying individual cut lengths, I find it quiet unfair to criticize those organizer who decide to make a profit in order to honour their time spent and effort in getting a better deal for everyone.

Why people must insist these kind individual to do pro-bono work for the sole sake of your personal benefits (being getting an already better but not the rock button best deal)?

I am not criticize any person, I am just share my experience here.
Is it a better value, I left it to the buyers to think.
I think the cut length without any discount will sell at $80/m.

From my experience, to order a special design didn't need any extra cost, so I don't think a re-run need extra cost either.
post #16250 of 19918
BTW, if that is for profit making, should it moved to buying & selling section?
post #16251 of 19918
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I am not criticize any person, I am just share my experience here.
Is it a better value, I left it to the buyers to think.
I think the cut length without any discount will sell at $80/m.

From my experience, to order a special design didn't need any extra cost, so I don't think a re-run need extra cost either.

I entirely agree that it should be the participants to decide whether the offer is suitable and good deal for them.

However, I dont agree them to blame one organizer where he organise the same cloth vis a vis another organizer offering the same cloth in subsquent group order but lower price.

Your experience makes this community better. However by getting into the details, thereby distinguishing different practice, is already a criticise to other kind members.

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BTW, if that is for profit making, should it moved to buying & selling section?

Why not? The organiser is entitled to do so. I only think those organiser should not in one way claiming pro bono, but on the other hand making a profit.

In gist, those organiser are fine in making profit. However, they do not have to spell out the precise profit they are making (as the amount of profit will inevitably reflected in his quoted price), and it should be left for the participants to decide whether they should persue or not.
post #16252 of 19918
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Worsted Alsport 520068. Steed MTM.
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c: @Cantabrigian, @dieworkwear

Thanks for posting that.

Colors are great. That exact pattern in a larger scale would be perfect.

 

Are you thinking a larger blue overcheck or other scale changes?

post #16253 of 19918
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Thanks!

Speaking of Minnis 656 ...





(Didn't have a chance to take photos until the end of the day, so bad light that doesn't do the cloth justice.)

Nice. Who made this up for you? Sorry if I missed the details in previous posts.
post #16254 of 19918
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Are you thinking a larger blue overcheck or other scale changes?

Inreasing the scale of the entire patterm, not just the overcheck. Like the Glenroyal gun clubs but in that colorway.
post #16255 of 19918
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Thanks!

Speaking of Minnis 656 ...
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(Didn't have a chance to take photos until the end of the day, so bad light that doesn't do the cloth justice.)

 


Nice. Who made this up for you? Sorry if I missed the details in previous posts.

 

Thank you! Sartoria Formosa via No Man Walks Alone.

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Are you thinking a larger blue overcheck or other scale changes?

Inreasing the scale of the entire patterm, not just the overcheck. Like the Glenroyal gun clubs but in that colorway.

 

Funny, in my mind they're the same scale, but after looking at some photos it does look like the lines in the Glenroyal checks are a bit thicker. I'll have to take a closer look the next time I can look at a book. I agree that those colors in a larger scale would be really nice.

post #16256 of 19918
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Your experience makes this community better. However by getting into the details, thereby distinguishing different practice, is already a criticise to other kind members.
Why not? The organiser is entitled to do so. I only think those organiser should not in one way claiming pro bono, but on the other hand making a profit.

In gist, those organiser are fine in making profit. However, they do not have to spell out the precise profit they are making (as the amount of profit will inevitably reflected in his quoted price), and it should be left for the participants to decide whether they should persue or not.

Yes, I agree that the organizer don't have to spell out the precise profit they are making, in fact, I don't know are there any profit at all.
However, I think a member should be free to disclose his information to help other to evaluate the deal.

I remember another member did a re-run of Minnis Rangoon last year selling at GBP40/m or USD59/m which was also a discontinued cloth, and I think he didn't claiming pro bono either. I will estimate the retail price of that cloth at around GBP55/m if they were on sell at Minnis website. For me, although it was not the cheapest price, I think.it was a good and fair deal, so I joined.

All in all, I think better information may help members to evaluate their purchase, period.
Edited by Fishball - 1/12/16 at 7:33pm
post #16257 of 19918
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Yes, I agree that the organizer don't have to spell out the precise profit they are making, in fact, I don't know are there any profit at all.
However, I think a member should be free to disclose his information to help other to evaluate the deal.

I remember another member did a re-run of Minnis Rangoon last year selling at GBP40/m or USD59/m which was also a discontinued cloth, and I think he didn't claiming pro bono either. I will estimate the retail price of that cloth at around GBP55/m if they were on sell at Minnis website. For me, although it was not the cheapest price, but I think.it was a good and fair deal, so I joined.

All in all, I think better information may help members to evaluate their purchase, period.


are you currently doing any fabric runs?

post #16258 of 19918
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post


are you currently doing any fabric runs?

Many Pals ask me to do so, but sorry, no. bounce2.gif

I think I still have more than 20 pcs of unfunded liabilities at home. baldy[1].gif
post #16259 of 19918
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Many Pals ask me to do so, but sorry, no. bounce2.gif

I think I still have more than 20 pcs of unfunded liabilities at home. baldy[1].gif


The groups you're talking about are mainly from The Kerbau right?

post #16260 of 19918
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The groups you're talking about are mainly from The Kerbau right?

Who and what is "the Kerbau"?
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