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post #16 of 36
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Cordovan is a type of leather that comes from the rump of a horse.  It's not the skin per se, but a membrane (or something) under the skin but above the muscle.  I think.
Ah, well ain't I jes ignorent. Thanks.
post #17 of 36
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A well cared for shell cordovan shoe will last pretty much forever.  Black shell cordovan shoes develop an nice patina with age, they don't require polishing as often, and they have a reflective shine that is different (and I think more handsome) than calfskin.  The creasing effects that the shoes develop over time (the creases lighten slightly) also add interesting character to the shoes.   I'm wearing black shell cordovan shoes (Alden of Carmel's Norwegian split toes) as I type this.
Kai -- this will be my next pair of Alden's I think. I believe this model is exclusive to Carmel? What's the sizing like compared to other Aldens? Thanks. H.
post #18 of 36
Horace- I recommend you should go on the alden of carmel website to see the online viewing of the various alden fan shoes. You can email your questions to adam knott. This shoe you would need to order a half size larger
post #19 of 36
I own several pairs of cordovan shoes and will buy more. Virtually indestructable, which is important to a klutz like me that nicks his shoes all the time in planes and cabs. The blacks turn a greyish that I like and emphasize with some green polish mixed into the black now and then. But be warned: they wear hot--they are just not as breathable as leather. It goes without saying you need shoe trees. Also, I have had my corodovans stretch quite a bit in the width. I think I remember Rider telling me it was inferior materials, but I've had the problem with AEs and Lidforts, too.
post #20 of 36
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Cordovan is a type of leather that comes from the rump of a horse.  It's not the skin per se, but a membrane (or something) under the skin but above the muscle.  I think. .
The owner (now retired) of a trad shop here in Atlanta, who sold thousands of pairs of Aldens, over many years, once told me that the deep secret at Alden was that not all cordovan came from horses. He said some was mule. Has anyone else heard this?
post #21 of 36
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The owner (now retired) of a trad shop here in Atlanta, who sold thousands of pairs of Aldens, over many years, once told me that the deep secret at Alden was that not all cordovan came from horses. He said some was mule. Has anyone else heard this?
No. I'm shocked. I assume they only used the horse half of the mule ...
post #22 of 36
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Hmmm, makes you wonder where the shell cordovan from the Japanese supplier, mentioned earlier, comes from? I'm not aware that there are a large number of horses or mules in Japan (I could be wrong). Bow wow.
post #23 of 36
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He said some was mule.
Hmmm...have not heard that before, but I wonder if it would matter? As long as the material performs as advertised, I would'nt know the difference. I do know that much 'kangaroo' is actually Wallabee, so I would not be surprised, although I would trust Horween's information.
post #24 of 36
I have been vaguely aware that mules were also a source of cordovan. I'll discuss this with my pal Greg Kramer, who buys a lot of horsehide from Horween, and report back to the forum if I learn anything interesting. I can only imagine that the mule population (at least in the developed world) has plummeted relative to the horse population since they are so seldom employed as draft animals nowadays. An amusing anecdote: Some years back I was at the San Fernando Valley Fair. There were some mules in a pen, and a nice city lady said to her toddler, "Oh, Timmy, look at the horsies." I couldn't resist myself and in the best rustic accent I could affect said, "Lady, them's mules."
post #25 of 36
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Horween is shipping Black, Burgundy (the classic), Navy, Dark Brown, Honey, and Cognac currently. Adam Knott has some real homeruns in this material in his shop.
Ever seen the navy? Do you know any maker who uses it?
post #26 of 36
Green Cordovan: www.clubcordovan.com
post #27 of 36
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not all cordovan came from horses. He said some was mule. Has anyone else heard this?
I can see it now. A guy brings his shoes back to Brooks Brothers: 'I'd like to return these. When you sold them to me I was under the impression that they were from a horse's ass. These shoes are just ass.'
post #28 of 36
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not all cordovan came from horses. He said some was mule. Has anyone else heard this?
I can see it now. A guy brings his shoes back to Brooks Brothers: 'I'd like to return these. When you sold them to me I was under the impression that they were from a horse's ass. These shoes are just ass.'
Don't give up your day job, A Harris.
post #29 of 36
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Green Cordovan: www.clubcordovan.com
That's a pretty sharp-looking shoe, mialpa, both because of the color and the shape of the toe. Is that the new Rain last that I've been hearing about? The Albaladejo double monkstrap model would look great in that color shell cordovan and on that last, I would think.
post #30 of 36
I'm not sure I would wear a green shoe (or, to be perfectly accurate, I am pretty sure I wouldn't wear one). with what, and to where, do you wear a green oxford?
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