I was serious about buying the item. I was expecting either an Acceptance or Decline message. After a full day - 26 hours - I figured out that the seller was simply sitting on it hoping for better. That was not the intent of my Best Offer, to provide them with an extended time fallback sale.
Three very senior members have explained this to you already, but I'll try one more time: According to ebay policy and the actual mechanism of the best offer feature, when you submit an offer you start a 48 hour clock. The seller can, if they so choose, accept your offer any time within the 48 hours, binding you to the offer price. If the seller wants to wait until the very last minute to see if there are any better offers, they are within their rights. Sending a message saying you retract the offer means precisely nothing, nada, zilch. You are still bound to the offer should the seller choose to accept.
Quote:Well, No I still don't believe that I am in the wrong. You have neglected to include any effect for the inclusion of Additional Terms. If I had NOT included Additional Terms, then the Best Offer would, IMHO and seemingly yours too, result in the transaction being handled like a regular Bid or Buy It Now. That would mean that I agreed to whatever shipping cost and was described in the listing, plus the Best Offer amount. Which is exactly what the phrase you quote says.
However, with the inclusion of Additional Terms, the shipping costs could be anything. I did not specify a shipping cost. I did not negotiate a shipping cost. I specified, using the Additional Terms feature provided by eBay, that the Best Offer amount was to include whatever the shipping costs were. The seller was and is well aware of what the Best Offer was, and what the Additional Terms were. All they had to do was to Decline it. That seller was intentionally devious and knowingly attempted to jack up the price. Then further followed that up with attempted blackmail.
The policy I quoted is obviously referring to additional terms. How else can the buyer "choose to include shipping in their offer price" other than writing it into the additional terms?? The purpose of this policy is also obvious if you give it a little thought. If you are allowed to include shipping cost in the offer via an additional terms write-in, the seller then has to pay a final value fee on the shipping cost as well, and this is NOT fair to the seller. Like NoVAguy said, if you had just done the math and entered the correct number there would have been no problem.
However, this snip is lifted from an email from eBay:
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your concern about the seller refusing to honor your agreement.
Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. Your report will help
make the eBay Community safer for everyone.
Charley, we're concerned about violations on eBay, and we've thoroughly
investigated your report regarding "jacques-worn". Please be assured
that we've taken appropriate action in accordance with our site
policies. Our actions may include issuing a warning, temporary
suspension, indefinite suspension, or terminating the membership.
Somewhat boiler plate. However it sure does not indicate to me that I owe that seller anything. It does not indicate that I violated any "site policies." We'll see how it turns out in a few more days.
Boiler plate is exactly the term. That response means nothing, believe me. And I hope you have more correspondence than that from ebay, because you posted:
Quote:It is not completely resolved yet, but seems to be swinging toward a seller reprimand of some sort. Evidently eBay considers the action the seller took as "fee avoidance." I'm not sure why that would apply but I'm not an eBay seller.
Also, is this the "blackmail" you speak of??
Quote:Seller then threatens to file a Non Paying Bidder report. What the heck. The seller did not accept the Best Offer that I had made, did try to increase the offer after I had withdrawn it, and now will report me as Non Paying? Why would anyone make a threat like that?
OK. So now the seller Has filed the Non Paying Bidder report. So I get some eBay alert about a possible "strike."