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post #91 of 133
never mind the gym, i've seen some jerkoffs snap in clubs when someone brushes by them. Totally hilarious and ridiculous. Fuckign guidos
post #92 of 133
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Originally Posted by drizzt3117 View Post
It would blow worse if a 85-100 lb dumbbell fell on your chest or face after your arm gives way. Moral of the story, use a spotter when you lift heavy, but the thing is, since spotters are usually supporting your elbows from underneath and pushing upwards and inwards, it's still possible to drop the dumbbell on top of yourself if your arm gives out higher up on the arc (if unlikely) Barbell also gives you the ability to some degree to compensate for some weakness in one arm with the other although this has it's own problems like the bar not going up straight. It's also easier to spot. The downside, of course, is that it's easier to have poor form on flat barbell bench IMO.
To be honest, I wasn't pushing it the day it collapsed. It was a weight I could normally handle and I'm not sure what happened...if I wasn't paying attention and slipped up. I just don't push past 85 on DB and ask for spotting on the bench instead. And I'm not sure I understand the wrist spotting but I think I may ask someone to do it for me just to see what it feels like. I have to admit I'm somewhat uncomfortable with the thought of someone being right in there like that but hey if it's better, why not? I've seen bad form on flat BB but I've seen much worse form on DB. Kids doing all sorts of weird dance moves as they push each arm up is kinda funny.
post #93 of 133
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Originally Posted by 65535 View Post
never mind the gym, i've seen some jerkoffs snap in clubs when someone brushes by them. Totally hilarious and ridiculous.

Fuckign guidos

Ironically those are the same jerkoffs that will crowd and bump into you while your using a power rack so that they can watch thier shitty little biceps in the mirror while they do curls.
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post #95 of 133
Just don't do this when you bench...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcv0...eature=related
post #96 of 133
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Originally Posted by drizzt3117 View Post
Just don't do this when you bench...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcv0...eature=related

Every now and then I'd see a guy at the gym who would bench without wrapping his thumbs around the bar. I always wondered whether it was safe. Now I know...
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post #98 of 133
^ is why there are only about 3 people I trust to spot me.
post #99 of 133
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but videos like that really make me cringe. I've seen people doing the thumbless bench press before... and wondered whether it would be criminally negligent not to correct them. I didn't say anything, but the guy was only using 95 lbs. If I were to do a max attempt, about the only person I'd want spotting me is my younger brother. He's not all that strong, but he knows what to watch for and I trust him. I can't stand it when spotters see the lifter struggle just a bit and then heave the bar up. It's supposed to be difficult, you overzealous prick. I've been pinned under the bar before (hasn't everybody?) but thankfully I've never dropped it on myself.
post #100 of 133
As a kind of semi-retired competitive powerlifter, I've always stuck to the "touch'n'go" technique. Do NOT bounce the bar, that's cheating, and don't high-bar it. If you do either, don't claim, "I can benchpress so-and-so much weight. Feet should be firmly planted, no dancing allowed as you press the bar up. Shoulders should also be firmly planted on the bench, and your ass as well. If your ass comes even slightly off the bench, it doesn't count. I only competed in drug-tested meets, since I did NO steroids or anything like that, and I didn't want to be associating with anyone who did. I'm on the comeback trail right now. Got a nice, clean 325 last week. Back in "the day," I was benching 430. Even in the gym, I was heavily insistent on perfect form. Also, you want your bench to increase? Gotta do it ALL. Declines, inclines, dumbell flies, cables, as well as shoulder presses (behind and front) and triceps (close-grip presses, french curls, pushdowns). Do like that and you'll tear it up on the bench.
post #101 of 133
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Originally Posted by Philosoph View Post
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but videos like that really make me cringe.

The last one really made me cringe.
post #102 of 133
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Originally Posted by Philosoph View Post
I've been pinned under the bar before (hasn't everybody?) but thankfully I've never dropped it on myself.

I have, do it not-rarely as I move up the weights incrementally alot. I've never dropped it on myself though, I just control it down.
post #103 of 133
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Originally Posted by Frrrank View Post
As a kind of semi-retired competitive powerlifter, I've always stuck to the "touch'n'go" technique. Do NOT bounce the bar, that's cheating, and don't high-bar it. If you do either, don't claim, "I can benchpress so-and-so much weight. Feet should be firmly planted, no dancing allowed as you press the bar up. Shoulders should also be firmly planted on the bench, and your ass as well. If your ass comes even slightly off the bench, it doesn't count. I only competed in drug-tested meets, since I did NO steroids or anything like that, and I didn't want to be associating with anyone who did. I'm on the comeback trail right now. Got a nice, clean 325 last week. Back in "the day," I was benching 430. Even in the gym, I was heavily insistent on perfect form. Also, you want your bench to increase? Gotta do it ALL. Declines, inclines, dumbell flies, cables, as well as shoulder presses (behind and front) and triceps (close-grip presses, french curls, pushdowns). Do like that and you'll tear it up on the bench.

What does high bar mean?

If I plant both feet on the bench with ass firmly on the bench so I can be more stabilised, is it cheating too? If I put one feet on the floor and another slightly raised under the bench's support, is it cheating?

By doing that, it doesnt make it easier for me, but more comfy. If I plant both feet firmly on the floor, that creates a gap between lower back and bench and it would mean I could strain my lower back when benching.
post #104 of 133
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Originally Posted by Eason View Post
Unless you have shoulder problems, touch the chest. I recall some studies where they showed a narrower grip is more healthy for your body, I like to put my pinkies on the small smooth rings as a guide, but I suppose it depends on how long your arms are. If you can't go all the way down, then you're cheating IMO. Decline is the same, but actually it's easier to touch, e.g. almost always ok. Incline is a bit different, I don't touch on incline.

narrower grips place more stress on the triceps.

i feel as though my chests get a better workout with wider grip, but thats all
different with each person.
post #105 of 133
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Originally Posted by beasty View Post
What does high bar mean?

If I plant both feet on the bench with ass firmly on the bench so I can be more stabilised, is it cheating too? If I put one feet on the floor and another slightly raised under the bench's support, is it cheating?

I alternate between having my feet on the bench and on the ground. I usually have my feet on the bench as I think it keeps my body in the correct position more and prevents me from using my back even if I want to.
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