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post #151 of 201
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Wait.

How much do you charge your clients?

I think you owe me.
Charge? You think I charge for this? I do it for sport.
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another reason Belichick is a sore loser :
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl...?urn=nfl,64971

prick!
That was pretty lame. Props to Teddy Bruschi, who was the first guy I saw strapping on his helmet when it became clear they needed to go back out for one more kneel-down play. Just because Belichik lacks class doesn't mean all his players do.
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Bullshit on Eli as MVP. It should be someone from the defense given that they held them to 14.
Although I think Eli was perfectly worthy, you're forgetting the most important statistic. The marketing potential of the D-line pales in comparison to Eli's.
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Infinitely better...I don't even remember that game.
I remember the ending. Serious high drama.
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With exception of the 4th quarter this was a painfully boring game.
I disagree. Had it been other teams, I would have found it boring. Given this season and these teams, I found the tension of "Jesus, are they really going to be able to hold the Pats' offense down, or are the Pats going to come up with one of those back-breaking plays at any moment?" kept it interesting.
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Originally Posted by Dedalus View Post
I pointed out to my wife that Petyon was sporting a pocket square, :
I noticed that too. We need help.
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Originally Posted by whacked View Post
Been waiting forever since the Patriots demolished your favorite teams to get back, haven't y'all?

Asses.
No, not really. The conspiracy-theory paranoia of Patriots fans is widely-acknowledged. Even Bill Simmons, a huge Patriot fan, has acknowledged it in his columns. Couple that with Belichik's attitude and the spying scandal, and it makes the Pats pretty easy to dislike. That, plus the normal tendency to root for the underdog, makes such reactions pretty normal. In other circumstances I, and I'm sure others here, have never had trouble rooting for a team that vanquished my own favorite. Indeed, that's often the more appealing choice because there's a sense that it validates your team's season -- "well, at least we lost to the champions."
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post
It doesn't matter if they were "absolutely stacked"
Or perhaps cuffed.
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Originally Posted by life_interrupts View Post
LOL! Actually, Bradshaw had some of the crappiest numbers of a starting QB in numerous Super Bowls.

Well, except for win-loss percentage. But what does that matter next to one's computer-determined QB rating?
post #152 of 201
it was a great game!
here in europe one has to stay up `til the morning to see the game, but it was worth it.
won some good money too(my first sports bet)
post #153 of 201
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Although I think Eli was perfectly worthy, you're forgetting the most important statistic. The marketing potential of the D-line pales in comparison to Eli's.

The mind truly boggles at the number of Peyton Manning/Eli Manning commercial we're going to have to endure over the coming months. If you listen closely, you can hear their agent salivating.
post #154 of 201
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Originally Posted by mrpologuy View Post
The refs wanted the Giants to win and they did. The Pats got screwed.


HOLD UP...

The NFL destroyed evidence that the patriots are cheaters and Pats fans still think there is a conspiracy AGAISNT them?

If anything the NFL wanted nothing more than the publicity from a patriots perfect season and to avoid a scandel a la MLB or NBA.
post #155 of 201
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Well, except for win-loss percentage. But what does that matter next to one's computer-determined QB rating?
The original post was that Eli was the crappiest-winning SB QB. Trent Dilfer was offended, and I offered that Bradshaw was even crappier, by the numbers. But, Lawyerdad, the W and the ring are what matter and Bradshaw has four of both in SBs. An aside for fans: to see Antonio Pierce win a ring after we threw him away and then dumped LaVar Arrington (the reason we let Pierce go) the next year, hurts. Kinda of like when Brad Johnson won with Tampa Bay in 2003 while we got a good look at Shane Matthews, Danny Wurffel, and Patrick Ramsey. Good times. . . .
post #156 of 201
The Pats O'line was this years Rex Grossman.

They should have been voted MVP.
post #157 of 201
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Originally Posted by JBZ View Post
The mind truly boggles at the number of Peyton Manning/Eli Manning commercial we're going to have to endure over the coming months. If you listen closely, you can hear their agent salivating.
Hell, nothing could be more inane than that Oreo commercial I saw the other day with the two of them. WTH?
post #158 of 201
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Originally Posted by life_interrupts View Post
The original post was that Eli was the crappiest-winning SB QB. Trent Dilfer was offended, and I offered that Bradshaw was even crappier, by the numbers. But, Lawyerdad, the W and the ring are what matter and Bradshaw has four of both in SBs.

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Fair enough. I think you can win one Super Bowl as a crappy QB and have it be a fluke. Win multiple times, and it becomes more likely that stats just don't capture how your team plays. I think that with differences in how the game was played and with today's obsession with statistical measurements, it's tough to make apples-to-apples comparisons with people like Bradshaw, Staubach, Stabler, or for that matter even a Joe Montana.
Although, as an illustration of how today's players have gotten bigger and stronger, Bradshaw interviewing Manning looked like Jeff Van Gundy interviewing Shaw.
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Originally Posted by kwilkinson View Post
The Pats O'line was this years Rex Grossman.

They should have been voted MVP.

Exept that everyone knew with near-absolute certainty going into last year's game that Grossman was a complete stiff who would find a way to lose the game.
post #159 of 201
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Exept that everyone knew with near-absolute certainty going into last year's game that Grossman was a complete stiff who would find a way to lose the game.

True that. You must only be middle-aged, as you still have the ability to argue with logic and reason.
post #160 of 201
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Originally Posted by JBZ View Post
The mind truly boggles at the number of Peyton Manning/Eli Manning commercial we're going to have to endure over the coming months. If you listen closely, you can hear their agent salivating.

Remember, Eli Manning is UNSTOPPABLE!

Ironically, the first time I saw that commercial, he threw an interception on the series after the commercial.
post #161 of 201
Eli the worst SB winning QB? Has everyone already forgotten the stinker of a game that Ben Roethlisberger played two years ago? He wasn't even the best QB on his own team in that game; Antwaan Randle-El was.
post #162 of 201
I said:

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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
Most Pats fans I know have lost their humility and good sportsmanship.

You said:

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Originally Posted by whacked View Post
Been waiting forever since the Patriots demolished your favorite teams to get back, haven't y'all?

Asses.

Thank you for proving my point.

I am a long-suffering Baltimorean. Our baseball team has stunk up the joint for 10 years and counting. Our football team was a complete disaster this year... although we did nearly beat your beloved Patriots, and in fact did beat your beloved Patriots, except for a bogus holding call and a freak time-out that gave the Pats new life on 4th down a few times.

I love my teams, and I've never had a problem with any fans with the notable exceptions of New York Yankees fans and the general boorishness of Philadelphia fans. So, until several years ago, I was pre-disposed to feeling a certain affinity for the long-suffering fans of the Boston Red Sox. I pulled for them to unseat the evil Yankee dynasty. I wanted the people of Boston to finally end their suffering.

My girlfriend cautioned me against this - she said that Boston fans were the exact same as Yankee fans... just as loud-mouthed and obnoxious, only unlike with Yankee fans, you could shut them up with chants of "Nineteen Eighteen!"

Well, then the Sox went and won the Series, and sure enough, she was right.
post #163 of 201
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Originally Posted by life_interrupts View Post
LOL! Actually, Bradshaw had some of the crappiest numbers of a starting QB in numerous Super Bowls. Eli has grown into a better than average QB boys, just accept it. We're at the end of year 4, the point where most young QBs start to really get it. He gets it now. He'll never be Peyton or Brady, but he'll probably be pretty good for some years to come.

In my book "the worst quarterback to win a SB" is a guy who is carried by the rest of his team. Manning had a lot of help in the SB from his defense and from a great catch at the right time by Tyree, but he was not carried. He did his job and led his team the way a champion QB is supposed to.
post #164 of 201
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Originally Posted by mrpologuy View Post
The refs wanted the Giants to win and they did. The Pats got screwed.

post #165 of 201
That was a great win. The Giants were the better team. The defensive pass rush was inspired. On Offense, Webster turned his career around as did Tyree, Manning drove his team down the field when he had to and, as Ive always suspected, When Plex really wants something, he is unstoppable.


This is a day of days for New York sports fans.
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