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1907 vs 8138.

 

How come 1907 seems to be more popular than 8138?  The look mostly identical, except the welt.  Isn't goodyear welt (8138) superior to norwegian welt (1907)?  STP can't keep the 1907 factory seconds in stock for half a day, whereas, the 8138 seconds in all sizes are still sitting unsold for at least a week.

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Originally Posted by styleforumfan View Post
 

1907 vs 8138.

 

How come 1907 seems to be more popular than 8138?  The look mostly identical, except the welt.  Isn't goodyear welt (8138) superior to norwegian welt (1907)?  STP can't keep the 1907 factory seconds in stock for half a day, whereas, the 8138 seconds in all sizes are still sitting unsold for at least a week.

 

Good question and wish I had an answer but I have both and constantly wear the 1907s whilst the 8138 sit there.

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I've owned and worn Red Wing 2408's for over 10 years now as my work boot. I've put them through hell and back. I'm talking about day in and out on construction sites. I've immersed them in water for hours on end, hit them with a 90lb jackhammer, shoveled, dropped heavy stuff on them, just all form of abuse that you could imagine. They stand up to whatever I've done to them. I have a pair that's six years old and still waterproof. I just reapply the Red Wing Boot Oil to them on occasion. Only issue is the leather over the steel toe wearing through if you don't use toe coat or bumpers on them. Any other work boots I've used cause foot pain and fatigue, did not stay waterproof, and fail at the seams within a month. I've drank the kool aide and it's good.

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Originally Posted by styleforumfan View Post

1907 vs 8138.

How come 1907 seems to be more popular than 8138?  The look mostly identical, except the welt.  Isn't goodyear welt (8138) superior to norwegian welt (1907)?  STP can't keep the 1907 factory seconds in stock for half a day, whereas, the 8138 seconds in all sizes are still sitting unsold for at least a week.
They're different leathers
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Originally Posted by styleforumfan View Post
 

1907 vs 8138.

 

How come 1907 seems to be more popular than 8138?  The look mostly identical, except the welt.  Isn't goodyear welt (8138) superior to norwegian welt (1907)?  STP can't keep the 1907 factory seconds in stock for half a day, whereas, the 8138 seconds in all sizes are still sitting unsold for at least a week.

 

 

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Originally Posted by styleforumfan View Post

1907 vs 8138.

How come 1907 seems to be more popular than 8138?  The look mostly identical, except the welt.  Isn't goodyear welt (8138) superior to norwegian welt (1907)?  STP can't keep the 1907 factory seconds in stock for half a day, whereas, the 8138 seconds in all sizes are still sitting unsold for at least a week.
They're different leathers


They're also built on different lasts. As for superior welts? I've had my 1907's for almost 5 years and not once had a single problem with the welting or stitching, plus the rough & tough leather is almost buttery soft and has developed so much character and patina over the years. I put some Mink Oil on them about 6-8 months ago and also about 2.5+ years back before that. Other than that just some leather cleaner when they need it but that's mainly for the stitching and eyelets to help with residue and grime buildup from wearing them in the streets and on rainy days. 

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Any recommendations on certain types of Shoe Trees for the Iron Ranger? I just picked up a pair of the Charcoal Rough & Toughs and because I have narrow feet I had to size down an additional .5 to get the correct amount of snugness in the middle part of my foot and in the arch, the 10.5 had too much room width wise causing the leather to almost fold on the sides of the boot. I had the guys at RW put the stretcher to the toe area to give me some added width since my pinky toe was pretty tight, but I would like to get some nice Shoe Trees that I can leave in overnight to help the Boot maintain its shape and hopefully speed up the break in process as well as suck out any moisture since my feet sweat pretty easily. Not sure if they made any that were specifically shaped for round toe or cap toed 6 inch boots. 

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They're also built on different lasts. As for superior welts? I've had my 1907's for almost 5 years and not once had a single problem with the welting or stitching, plus the rough & tough leather is almost buttery soft and has developed so much character and patina over the years. I put some Mink Oil on them about 6-8 months ago and also about 2.5+ years back before that. Other than that just some leather cleaner when they need it but that's mainly for the stitching and eyelets to help with residue and grime buildup from wearing them in the streets and on rainy days. 

 

This.

I have 4 pairs of redwings and 1907's are the ones i wear the most.  in about 3 years time, time to resole them now.  i just wish i went up half a size as my feet tend to swell later in the day.

 

great leather, and after a supremely painful break in, they are as comfy as any gym shoes i ever wore.

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They're also built on different lasts. As for superior welts? I've had my 1907's for almost 5 years and not once had a single problem with the welting or stitching, plus the rough & tough leather is almost buttery soft and has developed so much character and patina over the years. I put some Mink Oil on them about 6-8 months ago and also about 2.5+ years back before that. Other than that just some leather cleaner when they need it but that's mainly for the stitching and eyelets to help with residue and grime buildup from wearing them in the streets and on rainy days. 

 

This.

I have 4 pairs of redwings and 1907's are the ones i wear the most.  in about 3 years time, time to resole them now.  i just wish i went up half a size as my feet tend to swell later in the day.

 

great leather, and after a supremely painful break in, they are as comfy as any gym shoes i ever wore.


I feel you man I didn't buy my direct from RW and thus didn't get sized correctly so I went like a year before admitting that they were way to big. I went to RW and had one of their specialized footbeds put in and they have been perfect ever since aside from minor heel slippage when I wear thinner socks but thats just cause the in-sole I got is so thick in the heel that my ankle sits higher than it normally would. The extra cushion is pretty awesome though, I wore them during a mt weekend trip and didn't have any comfort issues at all and thats wearing them for 8+ hours of walking a day without sitting down. 

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post #3205 of 3657
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Black engineers if the jeans aint ridiculously skinny, which I would avoid buying altogether. I wear them with black jeans.
Charcoal blacksmiths would be a good choice
Black classic mocs wouldnt be too bad if you wanted to throw some color in there with the white outsole
The charcoal iron rangers would def work

Dont be afraid to wear boots that aint black though.I have the muleskinners and 877s and wear them with black jeans and they surprisingly work really well too.

As a poster on another forum once said to me, if you can fit the leg opening over a pair of engineer boots, then the jeans ain't skinny. LOL
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Is the 45 last (1907) wider than the 23 last (875), or vice versa? I tried on 2 moc toe boots in store, and one was definitely narrower.
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Is the 45 last (1907) wider than the 23 last (875), or vice versa? I tried on 2 moc toe boots in store, and one was definitely narrower.

I found the 45 last to have a little more volume in general versus the 23 last. I need an insole for sure with the 1907

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Do you wear the same size in round and moc toe lasts? IR fit me well a half size down from Brannock, but moc toe boots were very snug.
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Do you wear the same size in round and moc toe lasts? IR fit me well a half size down from Brannock, but moc toe boots were very snug.

 

Personally I think everyone should get fitted for each last RW makes since 8 is going to feel widely different than 45. Its probably not uncommon for people to wear the same size in IR and 875 but also remember everyone's feet are different so what may work for one person may not for another. I have long narrow feet that are wider in the front than the back so for me anything on the 8 last (round toe classic, IR, Beckman) fits better since that last is skinny and straight. On the other hand I had problems getting fitted for the 877, 875 since the 23 last is narrow in the front but wider in the back so whatever I tried on was either too wide in the ankle or not enough toe wiggle room in the front. You can combat this by sizing up and adding insoles but honestly the best way to find out is hit your local RW dealer and try on everything they have so you know what works best for your feet. 

My 1907's have one of their work boot custom insoles which helps take up some of the extra room in the boot but it also places my heel a little higher than I would like. But if I had to choose btw 45 last and 23 I would take 45 just cause it is a better fitting Moc toe overall. I measure 11.5 on Brannock hope that helps some. 

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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

Do you wear the same size in round and moc toe lasts? IR fit me well a half size down from Brannock, but moc toe boots were very snug.

I have weird feet. I'm 8.5E, but have high arches. An 8D in the moc toes on the 23 last fit me quite well, but at 8D in the 8 last is a tad long, but a thin insole makes up for it. A 7.5EE *might* have been a better fit, but I never tried to be honest. 

 

I bought the 1907s second hand, forgetting that they're made on a separate last. So again, a 7.5D or 7.5EE may have fit better, but I don't know. 

 

Like I said, I have weird feet, so I wouldn't really recommend going by my sizing

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