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post #3121 of 3657
The Chippewas are about $100 less than the red wings. Red wings are tough to decide on in my opinion. Because for $100 less you can get a similar quality boot. For $100 more, you can get a fully custom boot. It's a tough call, but you can't go wrong with any of your options.
post #3122 of 3657
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Originally Posted by gfloridafan93 View Post

The Chippewas are about $100 less than the red wings. Red wings are tough to decide on in my opinion. Because for $100 less you can get a similar quality boot. For $100 more, you can get a fully custom boot. It's a tough call, but you can't go wrong with any of your options.

I take it you were replying to me, yes?

 

I'm talking about in the UK - both Chippewas and RWs are around £220-240.

 

With that in mind, I presume you'd be leaning towards the RWs?

post #3123 of 3657
You can't go wrong with either. I'd say red wings. What kind of weather are you wearing them in? I have the iron rangers and I hate the flat sole. I won't be a flat soled boot again.
post #3124 of 3657
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Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post

Hey, thanks for your reply!

I agree that where possible I'd prefer to buy quality, but that is to say the Caterpillars are poor quality which is something I'm not sure is entirely true. I am less inclined to look at it like 3 pairs of x other boot vs 1 pair of RW boots, because I know that once broken in I'll have a comfortable and good looking boot that should in theory last at least a little longer provided it's well looked after (which it will be). I think these things look amazing when worn in and they have time to develop a nice patina.

It's a tough choice, because I see them filling the space of an entry point to high-quality boots as far as construction goes, being, as you said, repairable and recraftable in a way glued shoes aren't, but at the same time, the initial outlay is a lot for a student with not much income as of now.

I thank you for your other suggestions, but sadly Chippewas are about the same price (and in my view less compelling) than RWs in the UK, and while I also like the look of Wolverine 1000 Miles, they are about £100 more expensive. 

I'll maybe ponder it a little longer, and hopefully come to a good decision.

I like RW (have three pairs currently), but cheaper alternatives would be Thorogood - not as well made but decent or maybe go English made: http://rufflander.co.uk/product-category/heritage-footwear/town-and-country-boots/ ?

IR's are good on wet pavements, but if you're thinking of wearing them on ice or in snow look elsewhere - the sole is smooth.
post #3125 of 3657
If the LL Bean Katahdins are pretty similar to other Chippewas, then based on my own experience owning them, W1K Addisons, and Red Wing IR 8119's and moc toe 8880's, I would have to say the RW's are my favorite and provide the best value among the bunch. The IR's feel like a step up from the Katahdins in terms of construction and materials and I find them to be hardier than the W1K's, even now that I've had a Vibram half-sole applied over the leather one. I absolutely love my Addisons and the Katahdins are fantastic and hold a special place in my heart as my first pair of made in USA boots, but my IR's and moc toes will definitely get more wear.

As long as we are talking boots for nasty weather, I'll throw Danner out there. Both the Danner Lights and Mountain Lights are lined with Gore-Tex and have beautiful, classic looks, albeit a completely different aesthetic from the other shoes mentioned. My Danner Lights seem to be bulletproof so far, from days of hiking in Acadia NP and transitioning to strolling through nasty days in the city with ease.


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Originally Posted by gfloridafan93 View Post

You can't go wrong with either. I'd say red wings. What kind of weather are you wearing them in? I have the iron rangers and I hate the flat sole. I won't be a flat soled boot again.

 

I would be wearing through winter - we get cold/wet conditions, sometimes snowing, but very rarely heavily. That's slightly off-putting though with the flat sole.

 

 

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I like RW (have three pairs currently), but cheaper alternatives would be Thorogood - not as well made but decent or maybe go English made: http://rufflander.co.uk/product-category/heritage-footwear/town-and-country-boots/ ?

IR's are good on wet pavements, but if you're thinking of wearing them on ice or in snow look elsewhere - the sole is smooth.

 

Thanks for the Rufflander link - those WW1 replica boots look amazing, but the 'rough out' leather is a bit of a drawback. Not sure they'd go well with my jeans -  I mostly wear slim-fitting (think Levi 511s) dark wash jeans, but have a few pairs of lighter jeans and a black pair. May also be too light to be worn alongside my leather jacket, which is a darker brown.

 

Again, ice and snow isn't too common up in Edinburgh, I think for the most part the RWs would be fine.

 

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If the LL Bean Katahdins are pretty similar to other Chippewas, then based on my own experience owning them, W1K Addisons, and Red Wing IR 8119's and moc toe 8880's, I would have to say the RW's are my favorite and provide the best value among the bunch. The IR's feel like a step up from the Katahdins in terms of construction and materials and I find them to be hardier than the W1K's, even now that I've had a Vibram half-sole applied over the leather one. I absolutely love my Addisons and the Katahdins are fantastic and hold a special place in my heart as my first pair of made in USA boots, but my IR's and moc toes will definitely get more wear.

As long as we are talking boots for nasty weather, I'll throw Danner out there. Both the Danner Lights and Mountain Lights are lined with Gore-Tex and have beautiful, classic looks, albeit a completely different aesthetic from the other shoes mentioned. My Danner Lights seem to be bulletproof so far, from days of hiking in Acadia NP and transitioning to strolling through nasty days in the city with ease.


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Thanks for this, it's very informative. I'm certainly not looking for boots that need to be useful in unusual conditions. I'm not buying boots for hiking (already have hiking boots) or for working in, just for kicking about town looking good, able to withstand the rain and the cold.

post #3127 of 3657
The IR 8119's, unlike the other versions, actually have a Vibram mini-lug sole as opposed to the regulate smooth cork. Highly recommended, and the oxblood is absolutely beautiful leather.


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post #3128 of 3657
im thinking about getting the Beckman oxfords http://www.redwingheritage.com/USD/product/footwear/oxfords/oxford-black-9043-09043
anyone wear them?
post #3129 of 3657
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Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post

Hey everyone, I have a few questions with regards to RW IR boots and boots more generally. I'm on the verge of buying some brown IR boots, but I'm slightly apprehensive about spending £220 on shoes (more than I've ever spent on shoes by a wide margin).

I have bad memories of a pair of boots I got from Next that fell apart after less than a year, but I need a pair of boots that are semi-functional (walking around town in Scottish winter weather, nothing hardcore) yet stylish at the same time. Both the quality of construction and sleek style appeals to me, but do I really need to be spending this much money for a pair of boots to last?

To illustrate my point, the RW IR boots are £220; Caterpillar Sequioa boots are £80; and Firetrap Hiker Walking boots can be had for under £60. 

Is it worth spending that much more or is this a case of diminishing returns?

I would add that I have quite large (UK 12) feet, so the sleeker style of the RW also appeals.

EDIT: I would add, what are some of the alternatives available to me that sit somewhere between the two in relation to pricing? Use the RW IR as a style guide.

I own RW IRs. I do not own any Caterpillar boots, but I have handled a variety of them. I do not know if the Sequoia was one of them. Something to keep in mind, 2 oz full grain leather and 7 oz full grain leather are both full grain leather. I can say with certainty, a quality heavier leather will far outlast a thinner full grain leather. What does this have to do with the Caterpillar boots? The pairs I have handled appear to be made of a leather only slightly thicker than newspaper. It's your call if this will suit your needs.
post #3130 of 3657

This may not be too helpful...

 

I own two pair of the Foreman Oxfords and love them.  They are basically low-top boots.  With the pant-leg cover their tops, you would guess they were boots.  They are on the same last as the Iron Rangers and fit the same way.  The Beckman Oxfords are on a different last...I have never found the Beckman Oxfords in a store to try, but the Beckman Chukkas fit true-to-size, as opposed to a half size down for the Iron Rangers and Foreman Oxfords.

 

I think Red Wing works hard to make shoes and boots that are comfortable for extended periods standing and walking, including uppers that support the arch, which is important for me, though the footbeds are flat.

 

I definitely like the Beckman Oxfords.  They seem to be a pretty good value, compared to other quality American-made shoes.  The leather on my Foreman Oxfords is definitely on a par with Allen Edmonds, though probably a bit heavier.

 

Regards,

Jon

post #3131 of 3657
Has anyone here had any issues with heel lift, specifically in the classic moc toes? I bought a pair in size 9D, which is the same size that tends to fit me perfectly in most boots, and they seem to fit quite well, with the arch fitting perfectly, but I feel like my heel is a bit loose. The boots aren't fully broken in yet or anything which could contribute since the leather insole is so stiff, but I haven't had this experience before. By comparison, my new IR's don't do this, though I know they're made on a different last.


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Has anyone here had any issues with heel lift, specifically in the classic moc toes? I bought a pair in size 9D, which is the same size that tends to fit me perfectly in most boots, and they seem to fit quite well, with the arch fitting perfectly, but I feel like my heel is a bit loose. The boots aren't fully broken in yet or anything which could contribute since the leather insole is so stiff, but I haven't had this experience before. By comparison, my new IR's don't do this, though I know they're made on a different last.


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I have both Iron Rangers and Classic Moc Toes in 9.5 D.  I find that the Moc Toes are a tad roomier.  Thick socks have sometimes helped me with heel slippage.  Of course, you might also need a half-size shorter or a narrower width in the Moc Toes.

 

Regards,

Jon

post #3133 of 3657
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Originally Posted by SnakeDoctor View Post

Has anyone here had any issues with heel lift, specifically in the classic moc toes? I bought a pair in size 9D, which is the same size that tends to fit me perfectly in most boots, and they seem to fit quite well, with the arch fitting perfectly, but I feel like my heel is a bit loose. The boots aren't fully broken in yet or anything which could contribute since the leather insole is so stiff, but I haven't had this experience before. By comparison, my new IR's don't do this, though I know they're made on a different last.


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they should be fine once fully broken in. Mocs are roomier, I'm breaking in a pr currently and there is ever so slight in heel lift.

But if you're wearing the same size as your other boots you might be in a boot that is too large. RW Mocs tend to run half to full size larger. I sized half size down for the mocs and my IR

post #3134 of 3657
Thanks for the replies, folks. It seems like the consensus is that people tend to wear the same size in both Moc Toes and Iron Rangers? My IR's are also 9D and they're great so far so I'll probably just stick it out and see what happens.


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Originally Posted by Superb0bo View Post

im thinking about getting the Beckman oxfords http://www.redwingheritage.com/USD/product/footwear/oxfords/oxford-black-9043-09043
anyone wear them?

I don't, but was thinking of picking up a pair in the chestnut on black friday. I think they look awesome. Curious to see if anyone does own them and their thoughts 

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