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post #106 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Tarmac View Post
boots are supposed to be sized larger because you wear thick wool socks. And I mean really thick. We are talking about socks which clearly add another 1/2 size. Red Wing still makes socks like this, and with these, your correct size will fit great.

but, if you don't plan to wear socks like this, you need to account for it.
My general experience with this is that thick socks don't add half a size exactly; they add a lot of width and height, but they don't make your feet much longer, and the boots are generally the correct length (with support in the right places). If you you start sizing up or down, it screws up the heel height and arch placement. I can see sizing down half, though I wouldn't do it myself. Unless they're really inconsistent with sizing, though, more than that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Generally, I'd just recommend getting some thick insoles and wearing relatively thick (non workboot) socks.
post #107 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Johnny_5 View Post
Red Wing is more of a workboot / kickaround boot. Alden boots tend to be dressier using high quality leathers like cordovan. If you are looking for a bulletproof boot that till take a beating go with red wings. If you are looking for a beautiful pair of boots that can be more than double the price of Red Wings go with Aldens.
Thanks. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth all the extra dough for Alden's materials. The calf on the Indy should be nice. And there is the Kudu boot, which is Alden's other kickaround boot.
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Originally Posted by Arethusa View Post
My general experience with this is that thick socks don't add half a size exactly; they add a lot of width and height, but they don't make your feet much longer, and the boots are generally the correct length (with support in the right places). If you you start sizing up or down, it screws up the heel height and arch placement. I can see sizing down half, though I wouldn't do it myself. Unless they're really inconsistent with sizing, though, more than that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Generally, I'd just recommend getting some thick insoles and wearing relatively thick (non workboot) socks.
Work boots often have wider/bigger lasts than dress shoes in part because the manufacturer expects the worker to wear thicker socks than the fancy man. It's good idea to try on boots with the socks you'd wear with them. And there are good reasons for wearing thicker socks if you are breaking rocks with your feet, standing around with a jackhammer, or doing some kind of on-your-feet work that has you really hot and sweating, or, the opposite, standing around outside all day in the cold and slush. Work boots are not designed with Pantherella cashmere or stripey V.K. Nagrani socks in mind . . . . . . which is not to say that you couldn't wear such socks with work boots, if you wanted to
post #108 of 2736
perhaps a decadent pair of nagrani socks?
post #109 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Dewey View Post
Thanks. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth all the extra dough for Alden's materials. The calf on the Indy should be nice. And there is the Kudu boot, which is Alden's other kickaround boot.
Alden makes amazing boots. The Indy is great for an upscale nonwork/nondress boot. I believe they are going for around $340 in calf and like $550 for cordovan. The "ultimate indy" is also a beautiful nonwork kickaround boot. It comes in black and brown and features a commando sole. Leather Sole hawaii has them on their site. You can fine more info at the superfuture thread "shoes that look better with age." here is the ultimate indy in black ultimate indy in brown
post #110 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Dewey View Post
Thanks. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth all the extra dough for Alden's materials. The calf on the Indy should be nice. And there is the Kudu boot, which is Alden's other kickaround boot.

I can offer my experience with all of the above.
I've got the standard calf Indy, #8 cordovan Indy, and snuff suede Indy as well as the Kudu chukka. Also have the Red Wing GTs in cherry.

Factoring in price, I like the GTs more than the standard calf Indy.
Of all of them however, my favorites are the snuff suede Indy but they run about $450.

If I had to do it over, I'm not sure I'd get the Kudu chukkas.
I got a good price on them ($220 or so) or I wouldn't have bought them otherwise.
Mostly it's the thick rubber sole that I don't like about them.
Makes them good for winter though. Probably better traction than the calf Indy sole.
post #111 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Arethusa View Post
My general experience with this is that thick socks don't add half a size exactly; they add a lot of width and height, but they don't make your feet much longer, and the boots are generally the correct length (with support in the right places). If you you start sizing up or down, it screws up the heel height and arch placement. I can see sizing down half, though I wouldn't do it myself. Unless they're really inconsistent with sizing, though, more than that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Generally, I'd just recommend getting some thick insoles and wearing relatively thick (non workboot) socks.

There are dress socks, there there are thick socks (in this range I include typical tube socks, wool winter socks, and padded athletic socks), and there are still thicker socks, which are for work boots. I didn't know about this last category until recently when I picked up a pair of work socks from the Red Wing store. It is like wearing 2 pairs of tube socks. Really really thick.

I feel confident trying on dress shoes for fit with athletic socks on, and vice versa. The difference isn't that much. But I would not judge my size with these super thick construction-man socks on. Only if I planned to wear them with said shoe. In my experience they really add a 1/2 size
post #112 of 2736
^ Thanks for those comments on the Alden boots & the Red Wing boots.
post #113 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Tarmac View Post
There are dress socks, there there are thick socks (in this range I include typical tube socks, wool winter socks, and padded athletic socks), and there are still thicker socks, which are for work boots. I didn't know about this last category until recently when I picked up a pair of work socks from the Red Wing store. It is like wearing 2 pairs of tube socks. Really really thick.

I feel confident trying on dress shoes for fit with athletic socks on, and vice versa. The difference isn't that much. But I would not judge my size with these super thick construction-man socks on. Only if I planned to wear them with said shoe. In my experience they really add a 1/2 size
I just think you can get about the same effect from good insoles and normally thick athletic socks (or whatever), which is a lot more practical than workboot socks for people who don't do work in their workboots (which I think is most of us).
post #114 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Dewey View Post
^ Thanks for those comments on the Alden boots & the Red Wing boots.
post #115 of 2736
Where might one be able to find a pair of the Red Wing 9163?


I tried emailing cultizm for my size (US10.5) but they said that they no longer stock this model. I believe these were made specifically for the European market.
post #116 of 2736
How is the sizing on the 875s? Similar to the gentlemen travelers?
post #117 of 2736
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Originally Posted by upnorth View Post
Where might one be able to find a pair of the Red Wing 9163?

I got mine from Cult as well. I did see them on a different Euro shoe site but they cost a LOT more than what Cultizm sold it for
post #118 of 2736
I might have to find a substitute in the 8897s. I am not really liking the thick whitish soles that the new red wings are fitted with. They call them premium soles on the website but it also comes at a higher retail price, not to mention also that it would be a real pain to polish the uppers without staining the soles.

Has anyone tried the new soles and how do they compare with the regular types in terms of traction and durability?
post #119 of 2736
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Originally Posted by Johnny_5 View Post
How is the sizing on the 875s? Similar to the gentlemen travelers?

I'd like to know this as well. Would also appreciate recommendations on where to cop cheap 875's or 877's as cultizm doesn't seem to carry these models? Also, is 8138 some sort of European edition of 875s in a different color?
post #120 of 2736
I have 11.5Ds (true to size) in both the 1909 and 1907 (same last as 875 I believe). The 1909s are longer and narrower than the 1907s, which are a little shorter and wider. The 1907s fit me near perfect, the 1909s fit a little long but are too narrow for me to size down. My experience is that the GT can be sized down if you have narrow feet but stick to true to size it if your feet are wide at all.
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