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Originally Posted by gabby11303 View Post
Does a lower front rise mean tighter fit?

Say you have two jeans that each measure a 35 waist. One has a front rise of 11.5 and the other has a front rise of 10.75. Will the one with the lower rise be tighter since they sit lower on your waist/hips?

If you are a normal healthy adult, then your hips should be wider than your waist, so...the closer something sits to the widest part of your hips the tighter it will be.
post #3032 of 21424
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Originally Posted by Orpheus View Post
@NaTionS: The strings are for hanging the jeans on hooks. Evidently they're not of the best quality though.

@8bpc: In theory, yes. Hot soaks tend to be pretty potent. But there is nothing that tells the jean when to stop shrinking, so unless you put it in near-boiling water for hours it's not necessarily going to shrink to the fullest. In practice, a hot soak will probably shrink them damn near enough. IIRC soaking inside-out is to retain indigo.

So I went to my local Marshalls and was daudling in the jeans section and I nearly shit my pants. RRL straight leg dry selvedge. $50. Think of it: RRL, dry denim, in Marshalls. In the ghetto. However, they were 32 x 32; I could have stood for the waist, just waited out the stretching, but generally I take a 34 for non-dry denim and more for dry denim. That and I didn't have the clear-mindedness to check all of the tags to tell me if they were unsanforized (which would further complicate things). Anyway, I passed them up, especially since I didn't have $50 on me (lol poor).

So, two questions: can someone tell me if they know for certain if they're sanforized from the meager details I have provided? And is there any way to cope with short denim as such? They had a wider hem; I was considering tapering them at a tailor to "create" break when worn, should I get around to buying them.

A little short for me but if you don't want them I wouldn't mind buying them off you (if you can still find them).
post #3033 of 21424
So I've been debating some things recently. Is there a difference in quality between Samurai's and other higher end Japan denim and Levi's 501XX. Is it worth the trouble buying stuff from Japan when the stuff it's modeled after can be bought from Levi's?
post #3034 of 21424
I have a quick question:

Which is fit is slimmer, the A.P.C. New Cures or the Petit Standards???
I don't want to wear something too tight.
post #3035 of 21424
Three questions ordered by difficulty. I'm poor and planning on doing alot of squats over the winter so I'm going for some raw uniqlo straight legs to hold me over till I my ass stops growing. Should I just buy whatever size fits or are they like APC where you can size down 3 and they'll stretch to match? If I like my the tight fit of my APC's, especially in the lower leg, have a kind of big ass/thighs (but not big enough to require rescues), and want to move into better denim, what would you recommend? I've liked WAYWT posts with Dior, Flathead etc but I don't have super skinny legs. RE. raw sanfordized and unsanfordized jeans. The sizing stuff is infinitely confusing and I figure to make things simpler can I just use trying jeans the jeans on as my baseline and then go from there? For example, with my APC's, I knew they would stretch alot so I basically bought the smallest pair I could kind-of button up with a lot of effort and after a week they were tolerable, 2 weeks, great. Would this work for all sanforized jeans or is it a bad idea? I assume this wouldn't work with unsanfordized jeans though. With sanfordized ones would it work to get ones that are comfortable off the shelf and then soak and stretch out. I'm in Tokyo so I can actually try most of the brands I'm intersted in on. Its just confusing as hell when a flathead 30 measures has a 31 inch waist that will shrink ~ 1 inch and then stretch as its worn. If I wear a 31 then which one should I get?
post #3036 of 21424
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Originally Posted by Tcameron View Post
So I've been debating some things recently. Is there a difference in quality between Samurai's and other higher end Japan denim and Levi's 501XX. Is it worth the trouble buying stuff from Japan when the stuff it's modeled after can be bought from Levi's?
Apples and oranges. You need to see both denims in person to understand the difference.
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Originally Posted by Toink View Post
I have a quick question:

Which is fit is slimmer, the A.P.C. New Cures or the Petit Standards???
I don't want to wear something too tight.
Petit. Look at the APC thread and you'll probably find measurements, fit pics, etc.
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Originally Posted by false View Post
Three questions ordered by difficulty.

I'm poor and planning on doing alot of squats over the winter so I'm going for some raw uniqlo straight legs to hold me over till I my ass stops growing. Should I just buy whatever size fits or are they like APC where you can size down 3 and they'll stretch to match?

If I like my the tight fit of my APC's, especially in the lower leg, have a kind of big ass/thighs (but not big enough to require rescues), and want to move into better denim, what would you recommend? I've liked WAYWT posts with Dior, Flathead etc but I don't have super skinny legs.

RE. raw sanfordized and unsanfordized jeans. The sizing stuff is infinitely confusing and I figure to make things simpler can I just use trying jeans the jeans on as my baseline and then go from there? For example, with my APC's, I knew they would stretch alot so I basically bought the smallest pair I could kind-of button up with a lot of effort and after a week they were tolerable, 2 weeks, great.

Would this work for all sanforized jeans or is it a bad idea? I assume this wouldn't work with unsanfordized jeans though. With sanfordized ones would it work to get ones that are comfortable off the shelf and then soak and stretch out. I'm in Tokyo so I can actually try most of the brands I'm intersted in on. Its just confusing as hell when a flathead 30 measures has a 31 inch waist that will shrink ~ 1 inch and then stretch as its worn. If I wear a 31 then which one should I get?
1) Size down one if you want a tight fit. APC is oversized by two, Uniqlo is pretty TTS if not on the small side.
2) Check out KMW. In fact, ask Mauro what he has left in stock from the Farinelli's sale that ends tomorrow since they're 50% off until tomorrow.
3) You need to do more reading on here. APC is oversized to begin with and the problem is that most people don't look around this site long enough to piece together that their sizing is different from every other denim company. Here's the best way to break down your denim purchase:
A) What is the ACTUAL MEASURED WAIST?
B) What is the REPUTATION OF THE JEANS IN TERMS OF STRETCHING?
C) How tight/loose do you want your jeans in the long run?

So if your waist is 30" and tagged size is 30" then depending on the rise that would be fine as long as you keep in mind that they'll most likely stretch an inch or two (depending on the brand) over the next month or so. If they're not sanforized (aka, STF) then find out what the post-wash measurement will be and apply the same rule.
post #3037 of 21424
if you use the styleforumnudies code on selfedge you can get 25% off those svens.
post #3038 of 21424
someone in the wings & horns thread said that the W+H denim are dressy jeans...
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Originally Posted by blank View Post
I would buy them for $120. I need a dressy jean.
serious but might be a stupid question: what makes a dressy jean? differences from a normal pair of jeans? is it the fit? the color? what about those?
post #3039 of 21424
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Originally Posted by aaguirre View Post
someone in the wings & horns thread said that the W+H denim are dressy jeans... serious but might be a stupid question: what makes a dressy jean? differences from a normal pair of jeans? is it the fit? the color? what about those?
Color (not streaky, uniform, dark), colorfast (not prone to fade or bleed easily), and fit (personal choice but something that fits like a slim trouser tends to work best.)
post #3040 of 21424
I wear sz 33 for regular dry denim (sz 31 for APC reference). If I am interested in a pair of RB15, should I stick with sz 33 or should I move up to sz 34?

I recall people mentioning that RB denim should be sized 1 up. Can someone please confirm?
post #3041 of 21424
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Originally Posted by KenN View Post
I wear sz 33 for regular dry denim (sz 31 for APC reference). If I am interested in a pair of RB15, should I stick with sz 33 or should I move up to sz 34?

I recall people mentioning that RB denim should be sized 1 up. Can someone please confirm?

You should be fine with 33.
post #3042 of 21424
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Originally Posted by Toink View Post
I have a quick question:

Which is fit is slimmer, the A.P.C. New Cures or the Petit Standards???
I don't want to wear something too tight.

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Originally Posted by whodini View Post

Petit. Look at the APC thread and you'll probably find measurements, fit pics, etc.

I've tried on both, and I'm pretty sure the New Cures are slimmer, at least from the knee down. The measurements on Context look a bit off.
post #3043 of 21424
SD-103s with a slightly higher rise. And....GO!
post #3044 of 21424
When quietly soaking new raw unsanforized denim in a bath tub, is there really that much less indigo loss from soaking denim inside out as opposed to right side out? Or, does it have more to do with exposing all of the denim to more consistent temps, and therefore more even shrinking, if they are inside out? Lastly, would cold soaking for 2-3 hours preserve noticeably (as in the color of the garment afterward) more indigo than hot soaking for 30 minutes? I am trying to do a fair amount of shrinking, so I'm leaning towards the hot soak.
post #3045 of 21424
I just picked up some SE05BSP's in a 33, but after an hour hot / warm soak the fit in the top block feels really off and it seems to balloon out in odd places in the crotch and seat. I had no problem buttoning them - the waist is snug, but not tight like the first wear of APC NS. I'm looking for a more fitted look like sidneylo's fit on the SE website. Should I size down to a 32 or a 31? Waist measure 2" below navel is ~32". I wear a 29 APC NS and the fit in the top block is spot on. Pre-soak: Post-soak: Thanks
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