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Looking to step up my jeans game. Best fitting current pair is entry level APC NS. Also have KMW, Big John, rag & bone, none of which work for me fit wise + some styling issues. Looking for high quality jap. selvedge, med. to med. heavy weight, med. low rise. Not so set on sanforized vs. non, but fit & fit predictability are paramount, so unsanforized may be a tougher sell. Looking for mod. slim, mod. taper, nothing extreme.

Any recs or at least a direction? Addtnl specs I need to fill in?

I know you're not overly keen on unsanforized, but i'd recommend samurai s003jp. Slim fitting, and the taper isn't too extreme, quite wide compared to my APC PS. I also have the Samurai 710's which I quite like as well, top quality jeans!

 

As for sizing, I went true to size on the 710's and down one size on the s003jp. The next pair of s003jp I buy I will be getting them true to size, they are just slightly tight on my thighs, but nothing too major. 

 

I think you might lean towards the s003jp as the 710's are a bit heavier weight at 19oz where as the s003jp are 14.5 or 15oz, can't remember sorry! Also the momo's are a very good option also, the denim feels amazing!

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I like jeans from diesel, lov it http://store.diesel.com/de/f%C3%BCr-sie/onlinestore/jeans

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^ yeah cool, but only if you rock them with some Puma Speed Cats.


@Hiamosey Thanks! smile.gif
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Has anyone gotten the knees on a pair of jeans repaired? I have a pair that the knees are starting to get that fuzzy falling apart feeling and Im not sure if its worth repairing the knees or if I should just retire them.
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Has anyone gotten the knees on a pair of jeans repaired? I have a pair that the knees are starting to get that fuzzy falling apart feeling and Im not sure if its worth repairing the knees or if I should just retire them.

If you like the jeans and plan on either taken them to or sending them to, a denim specialist, then it could be worth it to prolong the life. I had a pair where one of my knees started to go and I got them rewoven my Denim Revival here in LA and they did an excellent job. 

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If you like the jeans and plan on either taken them to or sending them to, a denim specialist, then it could be worth it to prolong the life. I had a pair where one of my knees started to go and I got them rewoven my Denim Revival here in LA and they did an excellent job. 

+1

If you don't adore them, buy new jeans🐱
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So I keep reading conflicting reports about whether to wash your raw denim. I probably wouldn't wash them that often either way as I probably wear them 1-2 times a week max, so my 6 months is different from other people's 6 months, but is there any conclusive opinion at least on SF on this matter? Seems like lots of people in the denim industry even just say right out the not washing denim thing is basically bs if it's sanforized.

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if you wash them too early they'll shrink a bit even if they're sanforized and more importantly they won't fade nearly as fast

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Right, but in the long term if I just give it a cold soak it won't have too much of a detrimental effect right?

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If they're dirty you should wash them, or else no point in just soaking if they're sanforized already.

 

That is except an initial soak to get the starch out, which you can do at the start or after a week or two.

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Yeah that's what I meant, a soak because it's way too rigid atm.

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Right, but in the long term if I just give it a cold soak it won't have too much of a detrimental effect right?

There is a difference between a wash and a soak. Just clarifying for those that may not be aware.

 

Wash is done in a machine with agitation..

 

Soak is done in a bathtub or something similar with minimal agitation.

 

Please correct me if I'm mistaken. 

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Oh yeah, I don't use my washing machine for anything, I just hand wash or soak all my clothes. I had assumed you can get away with just soaking and never washing them. That's what I do with my CM clothes, chinos, linen pants, etc. as far as I am concerned unless the stains are really really bad, the only reason to use a washing machine is to save time, and not even much since it's not really that hard to soak something.

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So I keep reading conflicting reports about whether to wash your raw denim. I probably wouldn't wash them that often either way as I probably wear them 1-2 times a week max, so my 6 months is different from other people's 6 months, but is there any conclusive opinion at least on SF on this matter? Seems like lots of people in the denim industry even just say right out the not washing denim thing is basically bs if it's sanforized.

 

 

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Right, but in the long term if I just give it a cold soak it won't have too much of a detrimental effect right?

 

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Yeah that's what I meant, a soak because it's way too rigid atm.

 

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Originally Posted by Isolation View Post
 

Oh yeah, I don't use my washing machine for anything, I just hand wash or soak all my clothes. I had assumed you can get away with just soaking and never washing them. That's what I do with my CM clothes, chinos, linen pants, etc. as far as I am concerned unless the stains are really really bad, the only reason to use a washing machine is to save time, and not even much since it's not really that hard to soak something.

 

There is no set timeline for when someone should or shouldn't wash there jeans. This 6 month rule is some the jean companies came up with to give you a rough idea as to when you should give them there first initial wash. The problem is that if you don't wear them hard or only a couple days a week, this rule doesn't apply. If your jeans are dirty at 3 months, this rule doesn't apply. If you need to soak them to shrink them back down a little because they stretched, this rule doesn't apply. Essentially take everything you learned about the 6 month rule and remove it from your brain. 

 

Unsanforized jeans are jeans that are in loomstate when they are cut and sewn into jeans, meaning they do not endure the sanforization process which exposes the denim to extreme heat, calendering, and singing of excess cotton fibers, a process that gets MOST of the shrinkage out. This is why unsanforized denim needs to be soaked, the hotter the better because the hotter the water is the more the cotton will contract and the more shrinkage will be removed. As long as there is no agitation and they are a solid pair of jeans, no indigo will be lost and if there is any its just excess that didn't soak into the cotton fibers all the way during the dying process, so your denim will be as dark, if not darker than sanforized denim because they will have shrunk up and the weft (the white threads on the other side) will not be nearly as visible. 

 

Which ever one you chose, wear them until you feel its time for you to wash them. If you don't think they're that dirty but are maybe starting to smell a little funky, soak them in a hot tub with some detergent and no agitation, you will lose no indigo without agitation and this will also help shrink back the waist to its original size as well. However if your jeans are dirty, turn them inside out and put them in the washing machine on cold setting with the lowest agitation to lose the least amount of indigo possible. Soaking your jeans doesn't wash your jeans because the soap doesn't penetrate.

 

The number one cause of crotch blow outs is the build up of bacteria and the breaking down of the cotton fibers in that area due to that. Also without the cotton being occasionally exposed to hot water it stretches out and becomes weaker and weaker. This also leads to damage. To prolong the life of your jeans you're going to have to wash them or soak them in very hot water. How frequent however, is your decision. 

 

If you are all about high contrast fades then yes, you are going to want to go longer without washing them. This allows the non stress areas to stay dark, making the stress areas become more and more evident. Frequent washes will wash out this effect. But too much grime build up can negatively affect your desire for high contrast because it will hinder the denims ability to lose indigo dye through daily agitation. Basically, if you wear your jeans everyday, wash them, or at least soak them once every 3-4 months or so, if you don't wear them as frequently, then you can obviously go much longer. The key to the game is longevity, because the longer your jeans stick around and put up with the hell you put them through, the more authentic and more original the outcome will be. Hope this clears things up.

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Thank you very much.

 

If I give my jeans semi regular soaks/hand washing so the grime couldn't really build up could I get away with not really washing them (unless it smells obv, so I'm asking could I keep it from smelling). I manage all my other clothes by hand washing them a lot and they don't smell (just use hotter water or some manual agitation if necessary). I am really not a fan of the washing machine I guess. I imagine it should be fine just denim is a denser fabric so it's harder to get at dirt that's really penetrated the fabric.

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