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post #20326 of 20606
So the other day some posters were talking about the fades/dirt/not-washed nexus and how it may affect the eventual look of the jeans. I've got this relatively new (about 3 months) pair of Raleighs and they just aren't fading quickly enough. Any recs for accelerated wear & tear?
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So last summer I bought my first pair of raw denim selvedge jeans, a great pair of N&F E3's. These being 19oz aren't really something I plan to wear during the summer. Does anyone have any suggestions for light weight raw selvedge jeans this summer? I'm looking for a skinny/slim fit. I have noticed the 10oz that N&F is selling but I was hoping for something with darker color so when it fades it has more contrast.

These Momotaro's may be what your looking for. http://www.blueowl.us/product/momotaro-tight-tapered-lightweight-indigoindigo-10oz-raw-selvedge-denim-model-0305-97/

post #20328 of 20606
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So the other day some posters were talking about the fades/dirt/not-washed nexus and how it may affect the eventual look of the jeans. I've got this relatively new (about 3 months) pair of Raleighs and they just aren't fading quickly enough. Any recs for accelerated wear & tear?

Sleep in them. Or you can starch them in the stress areas to stiffen them up, this could leave an unpleasant odor though. I saw a video of a product that is a little handheld sander for raw denim that you can just use to scrape the stress points and expedite the process, but I forgot who makes it, so in short, sand paper does the trick. If your worried about the dirt build up, i'd just give them a warm soak with just a little bit of detergent, and don't agitate them at all, you'll experience very little indigo loss. But at 3 months, I doubt you have that much build up. Personally, I wouldn't do anything, give them another 3 months then maybe reevaluate your situation, but for now just wear them hard and beat the shit out of them. 

post #20329 of 20606
Okay, so I'm going to hem a pair of jeans. Why is chain stitching a big deal? You can't see it, so I can only assume its a durability issue. Help me out here.

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Okay, so I'm going to hem a pair of jeans. Why is chain stitching a big deal? You can't see it, so I can only assume its a durability issue. Help me out here.

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It's more durable and develops the "roping" fading effect around the hem, which, yea you can't really see. It's essentially just a higher quality hem that is usually done on vintage union special sewing machines, that maintains the (I'm assuming) high quality, well made aesthetic for your jeans.

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It's more durable and develops the "roping" fading effect around the hem, which, yea you can't really see. It's essentially just a higher quality hem that is usually done on vintage union special sewing machines, that maintains the (I'm assuming) high quality, well made aesthetic for your jeans.

It's actually not more durable and you can still get roping on a lock stitch hem.  It's pretty well explained here: http://www.rawrdenim.com/2011/04/chain-stitch-v-s-lock-stitch-pros-cons/

post #20332 of 20606

the chain stitch is not as durable as a lockstitch in that it can be unraveled easier which was one of the purposes of the chain stitch in certain situations. as for the roping, it was one of the unintended side effects of chain stitching on the hem which then became a desired look with faded jeans. you can achieve a similar roping effect with lockstitch but from what i understand it requires the person to know how to manipulate the machine and get the needle to go into the fabric at certain angle that causes the thread to pull and create tension which then creates the roping effect.

 

chain stitching is desirable for the hem basically for aesthetic purposes. It does have a more substantial look that is pretty easy to see if you do a single cuff and tends to create a more exaggerated roping effect. if you're doing a double cuff with the hem not showing, then it doesn't really matter. 

post #20333 of 20606
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Sleep in them. Or you can starch them in the stress areas to stiffen them up, this could leave an unpleasant odor though. I saw a video of a product that is a little handheld sander for raw denim that you can just use to scrape the stress points and expedite the process, but I forgot who makes it, so in short, sand paper does the trick. If your worried about the dirt build up, i'd just give them a warm soak with just a little bit of detergent, and don't agitate them at all, you'll experience very little indigo loss. But at 3 months, I doubt you have that much build up. Personally, I wouldn't do anything, give them another 3 months then maybe reevaluate your situation, but for now just wear them hard and beat the shit out of them. 

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post #20334 of 20606
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It's actually not more durable and you can still get roping on a lock stitch hem.  It's pretty well explained here: http://www.rawrdenim.com/2011/04/chain-stitch-v-s-lock-stitch-pros-cons/

Yes true, but chain stitching creates the pull on the denim that makes the roping effect much more apparent. And I was under the impression it was a more durable, guess I was incorrect.

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Not saying I advocate for it, or would ever use it for that matter, just saying I've seen said product.


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post #20336 of 20606

Can I get some fit advice? Just purchased a pair of Nudie Grim Tims in 28x30 and the thigh/seat area is pretty tight (I workout). When I pinch the thigh area I can't pull any jean material, so it's pretty skin tight there. I know they will stretch but I'm not sure if they'll stretch enough. How do they fit overall? The waist fits currently. Should I size up?

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #20337 of 20606
Looks fine.
post #20338 of 20606
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Not saying I advocate for it, or would ever use it for that matter, just saying I've seen said product.

Understood. My comment was not directed at you personally. (Unless you happen to be one of those people who sandpaper their jocks to get more "authentic" fades in their jeans . . .)
post #20339 of 20606
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Understood. My comment was not directed at you personally. (Unless you happen to be one of those people who sandpaper their jocks to get more "authentic" fades in their jeans . . .)

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post #20340 of 20606
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Understood. My comment was not directed at you personally. (Unless you happen to be one of those people who sandpaper their jocks to get more "authentic" fades in their jeans . . .)

Definitely not one of those people.

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