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post #19966 of 20559
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Hi everyone,

I just stained my freshly bought jeans with a thick red colored soup. How to spot clean the stain without destroying the indigo on that spot? Thanks!

how bad is the stain? you can just spot clean with some water and some color safe detergent if you want. oxyclean works well for me if you have access to that stuff. you'll lose some indigo but shouldn't be too much. if the soup was a dark red that stains clothes easily, you may have a light stain for a while but it'll just wear away with wear.

post #19967 of 20559
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Probably going to be best to just wash them... any strain remover will likely do more damage than just washing with some detergent such as extra dark woolite

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how bad is the stain? you can just spot clean with some water and some color safe detergent if you want. oxyclean works well for me if you have access to that stuff. you'll lose some indigo but shouldn't be too much. if the soup was a dark red that stains clothes easily, you may have a light stain for a while but it'll just wear away with wear.

I dabbed the spot with a toilet tissue and the tissue was all blue, it's scary. I shudder to think what a spot clean and detergent would do. For now I'll leave it since it's not too noticeable under the sunlight. Is there a safer option like vinegar and salt or something?
post #19968 of 20559

Sorry if this question is a little redundant. I have read through some of the threads which discuss it. But I am wondering about the quality differential between higher end N. American selvedge brands: N&F, Baldwin, Rogue Territory, LFNYC, Rising Sun, ect. and Japanese selvedge brands: Iron Heart, Flathead, Oni, Samurai, ect. 

 

I know the Japanese brands make jeans in the 20 oz. range, which I'm considering. I've been in Blue & Green in Soho a number of times. I'm considering going w/ a Japanese brand, but I'm not sure yet. Lets say, oz. for oz., does the Japanese denim tend to be much higher quality? Or is the higher price primarily the import mark-up? We are talking about a $100-$150 price differential based on the brands I'm looking at. But I don't plan to buy another pair of Jeans for 3 years (my last pair was 2 years ago) because I can only wear Jeans 3 days per week, and I'm often i gym clothes on the weekends anyway. Any advice?  Thanks in advance.

post #19969 of 20559
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I dabbed the spot with a toilet tissue and the tissue was all blue, it's scary. I shudder to think what a spot clean and detergent would do. For now I'll leave it since it's not too noticeable under the sunlight. Is there a safer option like vinegar and salt or something?

what jeans are they? a lot of blue can bleed out but for the most part it's not going to ruin your jeans. for instance, when you soak flat head jeans, they're going to make the whole tub blue but won't look any less dark afterwards. jeans are not dainty things that will lose color easily. 

post #19970 of 20559
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what jeans are they? a lot of blue can bleed out but for the most part it's not going to ruin your jeans. for instance, when you soak flat head jeans, they're going to make the whole tub blue but won't look any less dark afterwards. jeans are not dainty things that will lose color easily. 

they're new standard. yeah I was probably too cautious, but still, I think it's better to leave it since it's not noticeable in low-mid lighting. and probably it'll go away after some time, who knows.
post #19971 of 20559
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Sorry if this question is a little redundant. I have read through some of the threads which discuss it. But I am wondering about the quality differential between higher end N. American selvedge brands: N&F, Baldwin, Rogue Territory, LFNYC, Rising Sun, ect. and Japanese selvedge brands: Iron Heart, Flathead, Oni, Samurai, ect. 

I know the Japanese brands make jeans in the 20 oz. range, which I'm considering. I've been in Blue & Green in Soho a number of times. I'm considering going w/ a Japanese brand, but I'm not sure yet. Lets say, oz. for oz., does the Japanese denim tend to be much higher quality? Or is the higher price primarily the import mark-up? We are talking about a $100-$150 price differential based on the brands I'm looking at. But I don't plan to buy another pair of Jeans for 3 years (my last pair was 2 years ago) because I can only wear Jeans 3 days per week, and I'm often i gym clothes on the weekends anyway. Any advice?  Thanks in advance.

In my opinion, outside of import duties, what you are primarily extra paying for with Japanese denim is proprietary cloth -- most NA (but not all) brands use some variant from Cone Mills. That's not a bad thing, and probably more "authentic" than some exotic fabric woven on a basement loom in Okayama Prefecture.

I'd also say that objectively that "quality" of a pair of jeans is more in the patterning and sewing than in the fabric . I expect good patterning and sewing and quality finishings if I'm spending more than $100. Ounce for ounce, is Japanese denim "better"? Probably not.

I personally prefer Japanese denim, because I find it more interesting than the US brands. But if money were an object there's probably no reason to spend more than $200-250 on LF, Tellason, LVC.

Oh, I'll plug BiG here and say you should probably spend your money with them. An interesting comparison for me would be the LF 15oz Kurokis at $220 vs. 14 oz Onis at $285.
post #19972 of 20559

Thanks for the response. It was informative. If I choose to go w/ a 14 oz. jean, I will probably buy from LF or one of the other N. American companies. If I buy one of the pricey Japanese brands, I will choose a 17-20 oz. model, since it would be a novel item to my wardrobe. Right now I'm looking at Oni or Samurai as the most likely options. 

post #19973 of 20559
Why is decent gray selvedge denim so hard to find?

N&F's gray selvedge would've been great but I'm a small dude (125 lbs. @ 5'8) so WG is too big for me. frown.gif
post #19974 of 20559
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Why is decent gray selvedge denim so hard to find?

N&F's gray selvedge would've been great but I'm a small dude (125 lbs. @ 5'8) so WG is too big for me. frown.gif

 

There is a 14 oz. grey selvedge jean from United Dry Goods available on Revolve right now. I considered buying it myself but it doesn't fit into my wardrobe so I couldn't justify it. A 30 might be too big for you though.

 

http://www.revolveclothing.com/DisplayProduct.jsp?code=UNIT-MJ1&c=United+Stock+Dry+Goods&d=b

post #19975 of 20559

Do you all have your jeans hemmed with chain-stitching? Tate & Yoko has a union special & can do chain-stitching though, they charge $25 + tax. It seems to me a bit expensive to do so. Am I only the one who think that way?

post #19976 of 20559

6'6 and 200something pounds, Denim Jackets are way too short on me. Is there a non-Gap L Tall jacket out there? Diesel's stuff in XL seems to fit, does anyone know of any brands similar to theirs in fit?

post #19977 of 20559
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Do you all have your jeans hemmed with chain-stitching? Tate & Yoko has a union special & can do chain-stitching though, they charge $25 + tax. It seems to me a bit expensive to do so. Am I only the one who think that way?

I think $25 is pretty fair...those Union Special chainstitch hemmers are quite expensive in good working order. I hemmed my Railcar Spikes myself with my Juki lockstitch. Double cuffing the Spikes, so you can't see the chain anyways. I will prob have my next pair chainstitch hemmed though at Blue Owl....http://www.blueowl.us/category/hemming-service/, also $25.
post #19978 of 20559
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6'6 and 200something pounds, Denim Jackets are way too short on me. Is there a non-Gap L Tall jacket out there? Diesel's stuff in XL seems to fit, does anyone know of any brands similar to theirs in fit?

iron heart makes denim jackets that are longer in the body to avoid having a cropped jacket look. 

post #19979 of 20559
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iron heart makes denim jackets that are longer in the body to avoid having a cropped jacket look. 

Iron heart are great quality as well!smile.gif
post #19980 of 20559

Got my Strike Gold 3109s in from rakuten today. Shipped to me in about a week, and no duty. Pretty pumped. The jeans are awesome. 

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