I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here. - Page 1259

dude, they're basically brand new, and even for that don't look crazy fitted. I didn't leave the house wearing either my apcs or somets for about a week they were so snug. fit is awesome on both now, give it a minute.

The fabric on the 3Sixteens will get more pliable and thus more comfortable to wear when broken in. Cardboard stuff jeans always make you feel a cut is tighter than it's supposed to be. Give them some time.

I've got a question... I currently wear slim fitting straight jeans.. I''d like to switch over the skinny jeans (like the N&F skinny guy).. For some reason whenever I try on skinny fit jeans I can't get the leg opening to go over my shoes like this

 

It seems like the leg opening isn't large enough to go over my shoe and it just sort of jams up ontop of my shoe... This is the same with boots or sneakers. Haven't tried dress shoes yet.. Am I retarded or what's going on.

I think those are boots.

Two things that might help. If you're wanting a true "skinny" pipe-leg look, then you don't want a tapered jean, per se. The model in that photo is 1) rail thin, and 2) not wearing tapered jeans. They look to go straight down from the knee or so; hence, how loose and rolled the fabric is along the calves. Many people on the boards mistake "skinny" for "as narrow as possible" and this isn't always the case. If your thighs are bigger, then a degree of taper can help narrow the silhouette. However, it can also go too far and have you in a carrot-fit type jean (think pudgy girls in leggings). That's not skinny - that's embarrassing.

Second, the model is probably wearing boots. ^^

Just copped my first pair of raw denim, united stock narrow 13.5 in deep indigo. 

Should I try to stay as far away from rain as possible?

no - just live your life normally.

I'm 18 weigh 165 at 6'1". Over the past year I started working out and I have gained about one inch height. I also put on about 20 pounds while maintaining the same level of body fat, 11% give or take. My waist size has gone up about 2 inches. I plan to continue bulking up.

 

Right now, I'm looking to buy a pair of raw denim jeans and have decided on a pair of naked and famous weird guys. I've tried them on and fit perfectly in a 31 (out of the box, completely unstretched), but everything I've found online says that, I probably should be sizing down 1 or 2 to accommodate for stretching over time. This makes me want to go down and purchase a 30 and rough it out for the first week or two.

 

However, I would like to be able to wear these comfortably for a good year or two. I don't want to find that six months from now they will be tight  again because I have grown.

 

What should I do (I can only buy one pair)?

 

I doubt you'll gain a ton of of waist size by lifting dude, especially since you're pretty skinny right now. You should be more concerned about your thighs than your waist. (I am assuming you squat. If not, squat.)

From what I hear, most of the waist stretching comes from sitting down, bending forward, etc. The waist doesn't just stretch itself out. Wise styleforum denim gurus say wearing a belt helps with this.

 

P.S. Arnold's waist in his prime was 34 inches. It aint a problem area if you're gaining mostly muscle. 

So I should still opt to size down one?

I think the general consensus is to size down a little bit since the waist stretches.

 

But I've got two pairs of Weird Guys, one in 34 and one in 32. The 34's feel like fitted jeans and the 32's feel almost like skinny jeans. The difference in leg space is incredible with just two sizes. I'd keep that in mind.

I looked into N&F measurements extensively but never pulled the trigger.  I received both good information and bad, so I'll try to pass on the good bits and sway you from the foibles.

 

As far as I know, this chart from Tate & Yoko is accurate.  It was verified to me by several users with experience with this brand.

 

TAG SIZE	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	36
WAIST	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	38
FRONT RISE	10	10.25	10.5	10.5	10.5	10.75	11	11.25
UPPER THIGH	11	11.25	11.5	11.75	12	12.5	12.5	12.75
KNEE	8	8.1	8.3	8.6	8.7	9	9.25	9.5
LEG OPENING	7	7.1	7.25	7.5	7.75	8	8.25	8.5
INSEAM	35	35	35	35	35	35	35	35

 

Weird Guys are already  vanity sized by 2, and much of the advice out there fails to clarify if you're sizing down from your tag size or the actual waist measurement. Those 31s you tried on should have been 33" out of the box.  If they fit you perfectly, I assume that 33" is your ideal pants size.  If you want these pants to land on 33, you should order a 30 to account for an inch of stretch.

 

But that's assuming that the waist is your primary concern.  If you even lift, you must consider the thigh measurement.  That's going to get pretty tight, if it isn't already, and the thighs don't stretch as much.  You might want to stick with the 31s and rationalize that inevitable inch+ of stretch as bulking clearance in order to maximize the upper thigh.

 

Remember, I don't own a pair of Naked & Famous.  I've just done so much research that I'll randomly answer a question from time to time.  Please regard me with skepticism, for all our sakes.

Save yourself the hassle; the pair you have fits perfectly now. Stick with it. Having it stretch out can be remedied and mitigated. Dealing with something that quickly becomes too tight is far more difficult - especially if you plan on putting on weight. All this "size down three" stuff is bogus. Buy WHAT FITS YOU.

Edit: Double Post

bolded part is relevant...if you're lifting with an active intention of getting bigger, you're chasing a moving target, so no size will be right for you both now and then. further, figuring out what'll fit you a year from now is pretty close to impossible, so you have a couple options:
(1) choose a fit that works for you now and upgrade (or not) when they no longer fit
(2) hold off and size/buy when you expect your size to say roughly the same

there's no way to accommodate both your current size and where you'll be in the future (assuming you do some serious work) with a single pair of jeans. should be pretty obvious, this isn't magic.