I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here. - Page 1164

Don't worry, there are plenty on here that can't speak english even though they've lived in the US all their lives.

The term we use for that isn't "tear," it's "pull," like when a piece of a sweater comes out of the fabric but is still attached and woven.

I think he's spending too much time designing manpris to know what's up with denim these days.

Aside from finding the usual suspects for bigger dudes on sale (LVC, Iron Heart, APC Rescue, RRL Straight fit, etc.), there are a couple of brands that do straight fits like Tellason, Glory (which also sells Railcar but it might be a little slim for you), and others listed here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/157881/non-apc-sub-200-raw-selvage-denim-options/0_50

It depends on just how big your needs are, though. If I were you, I'd look at RRL. Might be a few bucks more, but you'd get more out of it, too. LVC would be a no-brainer but as the denim isn't anything special you'd basically be paying for what the sub-$200 brands already do but don't offer in "classic" cuts.

Judging by the carhartts, jeans might fall apart on you because they're too lightweight. If you were willing to drop more into the budget, you'd probably be happier with some heavier ounce Iron Hearts as I've seen them hold up fairly well with construction jobs.

Doubt anyone will have experience with the jeans linked but I wouldn't expect them to be raw (especially not from the look of them) and because of the cheap indigo I'm sure they'd be pretty resistant to fading, not to mention their washed state. If they don't fit slim enough for you, alternatives exist if you're willing to spend more. Don't know how asking opinions on here will do you much good since people can say they look fine all day long when at the end you're the only one who'll actually wear them and ultimately be happy with them.

But if you're buying uniqlo because of budget, it wouldn't cost much for a tailor to taper them from the knee down.

I went back and looked at what "advice" people gave you. Some of those people, frankly, didn't know what the fuck they were talking about, didn't clarify their statements enough, or spoke in simple terms that you might have taken the wrong way.

The best jeans you can buy is the pair that fits exactly what you're looking for. There's no such thing as it being "pointless to pay more for xyz" if the budget jeans aren't in the cut that you want.

So let's clarify a few things:

-Is it pointless to pay more for black denim? Not necessarily. They typically don't warrant the same mark up as indigo because the dye process is different. Still, they can command the same price because the fabric quality, construction, etc. is still the same as their indigo counterpart.
-Just because there are cheap alternatives doesn't mean they're in any way equal to their expensive counterparts.
-Good denim doesn't mean "thick jeans."
-You can overpay for design vs. denim as you can denim vs. design.

If you don't want them to fade, then you're looking for OVERDYED (in caps because I've given this recommendation more than once before if you search) denim like the Uniqlo you bought. There are many of options for that: Rag & Bone, Jean Shop, Acne, etc.

I'd just return the uniqlos until you find something closer to what you want. If you don't, then you can at least size down.

Really great advice. I like the part where you advised him to paint his legs black $15 or spend $500, without knowing any alternatives in between, although to be honest it was sort of a rehash of what you told him before.


You should swing by more often.

C'mon... You can't be the first and only person in construction to wear carpenter jeans. I'm sure others get along just fine without loops and small pockets.

Cheaper indigo won't fade more easily because it's not designed to. Just like they build race cars to go fast, boutique denim companies make jeans to fade well. There's a designed purpose, but with cheaper jeans it's typically to be as colorfast as possible.

For what it's worth, I'm not saying you or anyone else should be looking at $300+ jeans to wear to work, just that I've seen the kind of abuse jeans like that can take and it can be a lot more than a $30 pair. Personally, I'd go for some middle ground so that I wouldn't have to be going through jeans every couple of months, and so I wouldn't have to wear that blue.

No, no, no, God no.