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post #17296 of 20270
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Originally Posted by hoechi View Post

Hi I'm new here,

 

I want a pair of good jeans, that fit kinda like 511. I wear 29 in 511. I heard good things about APC, but they don't have heavy denim?

What is a good jean with heavy denim that ships to germany, or what size should i go with APC's if I wear 29 in 511.



How much are you looking to spend?

I'd rec Iron Heart for heavy denim.

post #17297 of 20270
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Originally Posted by hoechi View Post

Hi I'm new here,

 

I want a pair of good jeans, that fit kinda like 511. I wear 29 in 511. I heard good things about APC, but they don't have heavy denim?

What is a good jean with heavy denim that ships to germany, or what size should i go with APC's if I wear 29 in 511.


APC makes heavy denim - don't worry.  I think they also have some stretch fabrics and some lighter stuff, but the heavy 12 and 14oz stuff is the most popular I believe. 

 

I have no idea what model of APC corresponds to Levi 511 (maybe New Standard?), but you can find info about the different cuts, and also buy APC denim, from Park and Bond: http://www.parkandbond.com/the-intersection/guides/denim-buying-guide?oglt=togg
 

 

post #17298 of 20270

Are APCs true to size?

post #17299 of 20270
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Originally Posted by hoechi View Post

Are APCs true to size?



They are the prime example of vanity-sized jeans. http://www.contextclothing.com/brand.php?brand=A.P.C.+Denim check here for all the models and their measurements. Check out the APC thread too for people experience with the denim - it usually stretches a ton.

post #17300 of 20270

How lose do New standards fit and how tight are petite standard, I'm 5'7 and weigh 120lbs. I don't want them to be skintight all the way through, but neither baggy too baggy in the calves. So should i buy 28 or 27. In 511 i wear 29.

 

And another question:

 

when i click a jean in the apc shop http://www.apc.fr/wwuk/denim_u3.html , i get relocated to APC Women, instead of APC Denim?

post #17301 of 20270

New Standards are pretty slim, New Standards are even slimmer according to A.P.C themselves. It also depends on sizing. New Standards can be anywhere from slim to skinny. Better to ask (or better yet, just lurk) the official APC thread, they can probably answer your question better.

 

As for the redirection, that is because all APC denim is unisex.

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Originally Posted by hoechi View Post

How lose do New standards fit and how tight are petite standard, I'm 5'7 and weigh 120lbs. I don't want them to be skintight all the way through, but neither baggy too baggy in the calves. So should i buy 28 or 27. In 511 i wear 29.

 

And another question:

 

when i click a jean in the apc shop http://www.apc.fr/wwuk/denim_u3.html , i get relocated to APC Women, instead of APC Denim?



 

post #17302 of 20270
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Originally Posted by CDHagg View Post



APC makes heavy denim - don't worry.  I think they also have some stretch fabrics and some lighter stuff, but the heavy 12 and 14oz stuff is the most popular I believe. 

I have no idea what model of APC corresponds to Levi 511 (maybe New Standard?), but you can find info about the different cuts, and also buy APC denim, from Park and Bond: http://www.parkandbond.com/the-intersection/guides/denim-buying-guide?oglt=togg

 

Most denim people would not consider 12 or 14 oz. denim to be heavy. Personally I would call 12 oz lightweight, and 14 oz. midweight. Most would not consider denim to be heavy until you get to about 17 oz.
post #17303 of 20270
Thread Starter 
I know he means well but some of the advice or opinions of CD's feel like they're coming out of thin air.
post #17304 of 20270
APCs are heavy? crackup[1].gif

APCs are like thin stiff pieces of cardboard. What happens when you hit the 21oz+ territory?
post #17305 of 20270
Hi all. I'm new to the raw denim thing. I just bought some raw jcrew denim (I know many here are against their overcharging at retail $225! But I got 20% so I felt that was more fair. Plus, I love the 484 fit) and wanted to get an idea about soaking them.

I believe they are sanforized denim, so it isn't necessary to soak before wearing (and some are against doing it). However, it seems that there could be some benefits to soaking. For one, I have heard that soaking the cotton should help strengthen the fibers? Is this true? If so, that's worthwhile to me... even at the expensive of some less contrasting fades. The other benefit would be to get some initial shrink out of the way. Although they are sanforized, I assume there is some (a few %) shrinking that will occur... as they are far too long on me now, I want to hem them, but don't want to risk hemming too short. Hopefully this alleviates that.

Is there really any downsides to soaking before wearing other than some minor indigo loss (which potentially reduces fading contrast)?

Also... in terms of going about the soak. Is there any benefit to using warm or hot water? I don't actually want them to shrink really, so I was thinking to just go with a cold soak since when I do wash them months from now, it will also be in cold.

Lastly, should I turn inside out and let soak? Or what about wearing while soaking? I feel as if wearing while soaking could agitate them more and I'd get more severe indigo loss? Also, with cold water... that's a bitch to sit in for a long period of time. Lastly, I'd have to wear them dry probably? I feel like just inside out soak is far easier on me. But if there are some great benefits to wearing during the soaking process... let me know.

Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks!
post #17306 of 20270
are there any brands with raw denim under 200 dollars that have a more relaxed fit?? like alot of the cuts sold on SE, but not costing more than 400...

like for size 34 with 13 inch thighs or something, biggest i've seen for size 34 are 12.5 from N and F
post #17307 of 20270


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Originally Posted by Jay687 View Post

Hi all. I'm new to the raw denim thing. I just bought some raw jcrew denim (I know many here are against their overcharging at retail $225! But I got 20% so I felt that was more fair. Plus, I love the 484 fit) and wanted to get an idea about soaking them.

I believe they are sanforized denim, so it isn't necessary to soak before wearing (and some are against doing it). However, it seems that there could be some benefits to soaking. For one, I have heard that soaking the cotton should help strengthen the fibers? Is this true? If so, that's worthwhile to me... even at the expensive of some less contrasting fades. The other benefit would be to get some initial shrink out of the way. Although they are sanforized, I assume there is some (a few %) shrinking that will occur... as they are far too long on me now, I want to hem them, but don't want to risk hemming too short. Hopefully this alleviates that.

Is there really any downsides to soaking before wearing other than some minor indigo loss (which potentially reduces fading contrast)?

Also... in terms of going about the soak. Is there any benefit to using warm or hot water? I don't actually want them to shrink really, so I was thinking to just go with a cold soak since when I do wash them months from now, it will also be in cold.

Lastly, should I turn inside out and let soak? Or what about wearing while soaking? I feel as if wearing while soaking could agitate them more and I'd get more severe indigo loss? Also, with cold water... that's a bitch to sit in for a long period of time. Lastly, I'd have to wear them dry probably? I feel like just inside out soak is far easier on me. But if there are some great benefits to wearing during the soaking process... let me know.

Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks!

 

I'm not an expert, but here's what I've gathered through osmosis from lurking this forum the last month: I have one pair of sanforized jeans and one pair unsanforized. You don't need to soak if they're sanforized. I don't think that rumor about strengthening the denim is true. If the jeans did shrink a little, it probably wouldn't be more than about 1/2" in inseam. If they shrink in the waist/thighs, they'll just stretch back out again. My unsanforized jeans shrank about 2" in the inseam.

 

The only reason you'd need to wear them while they dry is if the denim was unsanforized and you're afraid they'll shrink too much in the waist/thighs. When I soaked my unsanforized jeans, I did it several times with the hottest tap water from my faucet, had them inside out, and let them dry out completely each time. If you don't use any agitation, the indigo loss will be minimal. I had them in my washing machine with the top open to soak, then let them agitate about half a minute just to make sure I got all the shrinkage out of the way.

post #17308 of 20270
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Originally Posted by Billster View Post

are there any brands with raw denim under 200 dollars that have a more relaxed fit?? like alot of the cuts sold on SE, but not costing more than 400...
like for size 34 with 13 inch thighs or something, biggest i've seen for size 34 are 12.5 from N and F

Left Field has some around that range
post #17309 of 20270
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jay687 View Post

Hi all. I'm new to the raw denim thing. I
A lot of what you're asking is in here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/68358/guide-on-how-to-break-in-raw-and-nonraw-jawns/0_50

You soak sanforized because you're getting any shrinkage out of the way. No real downside other than you'd be softening up the denim a bit. Any other advice concerning soaking to do with fading, strengthening, etc. is bullshit, arbitrary, and anecdotal. Hot soak in theory will shrink more. Soak inside out to agitate less.

For every "do this, this, this, and this," there's several hundred people who never have and come out fine. They haven't soaked sanforized, they haven't soaked unsanforized, they hot washed, they cold washed, they etc. etc. etc.

I'd pay anyone here $100 if they could look at a pair of jeans a year or two in and know exactly what was done in terms of care outside of someone regularly washing their jeans.
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Originally Posted by Billster View Post

are there any brands with raw denim under 200 dollars that have a more relaxed fit?? like alot of the cuts sold on SE, but not costing more than 400...
like for size 34 with 13 inch thighs or something, biggest i've seen for size 34 are 12.5 from N and F

http://www.styleforum.net/t/157881/non-apc-sub-200-raw-selvage-denim-options/0_50
post #17310 of 20270

Is there any heavy raw denim sold below 200$?

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