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post #17221 of 20697
Quick question about salvage denim , in general. First is, are all salvage jeans necessarily identified by the typical red stitched closed outseam. I was looking at Calder jeans from Levis' Selvedge Goods collection and noticed they didn't have it although the product site states it's cut from 16oz selvedge.

Next question is what are some of the pros and cons of a stretch denim, besides comfort. What fades can you typically expect from stretch denim with 2% elastane.


Rod
post #17222 of 20697
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Originally Posted by eddbot View Post

Quick question about salvage denim , in general. First is, are all salvage jeans necessarily identified by the typical red stitched closed outseam. I was looking at Calder jeans from Levis' Selvedge Goods collection and noticed they didn't have it although the product site states it's cut from 16oz selvedge.
Next question is what are some of the pros and cons of a stretch denim, besides comfort. What fades can you typically expect from stretch denim with 2% elastane.
Rod

no, some selvedge denim has other colored stitching along the ends of the fabric. you can look for the type of closure and band of non-blue/black/main color thread at the end. Ask more questions of the company to find out for sure where they source their denim. Stretch denim is definitely more comfortable, but the stretch can give over time. Fades can be substantial, it all depends on the individual, the type of wear, and whether the original denim was washed/treated beforehand.
post #17223 of 20697
Thread Starter 
Those Levi's are definitely selvage (aside from the fact that the line is specifically called Selvage Goods) but they're not the more common variety that Levi's also uses. Frankly, that specific version looks pretty ugly, but hey. It's important to note that checking the cuff isn't a 100% foolproof method of determining whether or not the denim is selvage. While most selvage jeans are made with the selvage on the outseam, there are a few brands that either only do half (like Lee) or don't show it all (also Lee.)

As far as stretch goes, you'll still see fades (see: Nudie thin finn) but typically it's shit denim because it doesn't make any sense to use good cotton or indigo.
post #17224 of 20697
I think topman tried to do that (fake the selvage line)
post #17225 of 20697
Living through NYC winters (except this one!) I've come to prefer heavier denim (currently wearing 16 oz BiG N-02's). But we will be moving to France in a few months and I would like something a bit lighter -- 12-13 oz -- as a second pair that I can wear in warmer weather.

APC would be the obvious choice, but that seems a little TOO obvious in France. Looking for a slim straight or slight taper, medium rise, at a relatively low price point (150-225ish), with no or minimal flourishes. Does anyone have any suggestions? I think Tellason uses some 12 oz Cone, which would be fine with me.

Thanks.
post #17226 of 20697
Anyone know the quality of these? Or should I keep with APC?
http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=10952315&
post #17227 of 20697
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Peter1 View Post

Does anyone have any suggestions? I think Tellason uses some 12 oz Cone, which would be fine with me.
Thanks.
Yeah, finding a US brand using 12oz Cone should be fairly easy. If you wait another month or so you'll probably have more luck finding lighter ounce gear. Rag & Bone has some fairly light stuff and they go for under $200. I know Rogue Territory is supposed to be bringing back some light ounce stuff for the spring soon, too. Or if you're going really light ounce you can look into chambray stuff, like the pairs Jean Shop put out last S/S.
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Originally Posted by halisray View Post

Anyone know the quality of these? Or should I keep with APC?
http://us.levi.com/product/index.jsp?productId=10952315&
On paper they should be better than APC: US denim (White Oak, for that matter) made in the US. Only question for me would be fit.
post #17228 of 20697

Can somebody recommend some jeans fit like Levi's 514 or 3sixteen SL series but with mid rise? They fit me well below the crotch but I have a wider hipbone, and wearing low rise jeans I always need to choose between pains on my hipbone or my balls.

 

By mid rise I mean front + back around 26", if possible a tad wider at thigh is preferred.


Edited by swolfod - 2/9/12 at 8:11am
post #17229 of 20697
All,

How does LVC compare in quality & durability with the good Japanese brands like Samurai or Studio d'Artisan?
post #17230 of 20697
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Originally Posted by JDelage View Post

All,
How does LVC compare in quality & durability with the good Japanese brands like Samurai or Studio d'Artisan?

It's not close in either category.
post #17231 of 20697
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Originally Posted by Artking3 View Post

It's not close in either category.

Thou speak out of yer ass
post #17232 of 20697
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Originally Posted by Peter1 View Post

Living through NYC winters (except this one!) I've come to prefer heavier denim (currently wearing 16 oz BiG N-02's). But we will be moving to France in a few months and I would like something a bit lighter -- 12-13 oz -- as a second pair that I can wear in warmer weather.
APC would be the obvious choice, but that seems a little TOO obvious in France. Looking for a slim straight or slight taper, medium rise, at a relatively low price point (150-225ish), with no or minimal flourishes. Does anyone have any suggestions? I think Tellason uses some 12 oz Cone, which would be fine with me.
Thanks.

http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=9625&category_id=&manufacturer_id=50&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62
post #17233 of 20697
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Originally Posted by Peter1 View Post

Living through NYC winters (except this one!) I've come to prefer heavier denim (currently wearing 16 oz BiG N-02's). But we will be moving to France in a few months and I would like something a bit lighter -- 12-13 oz -- as a second pair that I can wear in warmer weather.
APC would be the obvious choice, but that seems a little TOO obvious in France. Looking for a slim straight or slight taper, medium rise, at a relatively low price point (150-225ish), with no or minimal flourishes. Does anyone have any suggestions? I think Tellason uses some 12 oz Cone, which would be fine with me.
Thanks.


since you live near me, I'll ask you. Thoughts on NaF elephant selvedge?

 

post #17234 of 20697
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Originally Posted by Peter1 View Post

Living through NYC winters (except this one!) I've come to prefer heavier denim (currently wearing 16 oz BiG N-02's). But we will be moving to France in a few months and I would like something a bit lighter -- 12-13 oz -- as a second pair that I can wear in warmer weather.
APC would be the obvious choice, but that seems a little TOO obvious in France. Looking for a slim straight or slight taper, medium rise, at a relatively low price point (150-225ish), with no or minimal flourishes. Does anyone have any suggestions? I think Tellason uses some 12 oz Cone, which would be fine with me.
Thanks.

I was about to suggest the Left Fields, they feel lighter in person, maybe 10oz but they are well crafted
post #17235 of 20697
I'm a pretty short guy with larger thighs who has always worn tapered denim, but recently I bought a pair of LVC's and was told not to taper them because it would look weird meshing with the top block?
I wasn't going to taper them to be a really slim fit, I just want more of a slim-straight fit because the leg opening and knees are quite large.
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