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Originally Posted by iroh View Post

i am sad to hear that, will my jeans turn white after i wash them enough times? how many times?
then how come non-raw jeans are so hard to fade?
is there any way to seal the jeans so they stop fading?

Buy resin coated ones, they don't really fade much
post #16952 of 20553

is there a denim back pocket stitching/arc guide/archive? where it identifies what company the jeans belong to from the back pocket stitching?

 

would be nice to have/archive

 

http://blog.abcdenim.com/post/10530129195/what-are-arcs
 

something like this, but with EVERY stitching


Edited by TooAwesome - 1/8/12 at 1:21am
post #16953 of 20553
How are Levi's waterless jeans?

Also is the quality of denim drasticly differant from premium suppliers to brands like levi's etc? Having never ordered a pair of raw denim before I'm not to sure on how to size it, and I'm worried about paying $400 for a pair of jeans if they stretch after a few wears.

Do you think i'd be better off ordering 2 pairs of iron heart jeans or getting a few from levi's/apc and putting the money i save towards outerwear and boots.
post #16954 of 20553
I just picked up a pair of Gilded Age selvage raw jeans on sale from Mr. Porter. The tag says that they will shrink if washed in cold water. I do want them to shrink a little bit but I always thought that hot water did the trick. Should I wear them to break them in first? Anyone have any experience with these?
post #16955 of 20553
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Originally Posted by iroh View Post

i am sad to hear that, will my jeans turn white after i wash them enough times? how many times?
then how come non-raw jeans are so hard to fade?
is there any way to seal the jeans so they stop fading?

It would take probably hundreds of washes to turn your jeans completely white. Realistically speaking, the denim will most likely wear out before it loses that much color, if it makes you feel any better.

Jeans are meant to fade, most people think they look better as they start to pick up fade marks like whiskers in the lap and honeycombs behind the knees. If you don't want your jeans to fade, you might want to look into buying non-fading jeans, like the Iron Heart Superblack jeans or the Pure Blue Japan NC models. Or get a hank-dyed natural indigo jean like you were asking about before, those will eventually fade but probably won't turn white within your lifetime.
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Originally Posted by IDH View Post

How are Levi's waterless jeans?
Also is the quality of denim drasticly differant from premium suppliers to brands like levi's etc? Having never ordered a pair of raw denim before I'm not to sure on how to size it, and I'm worried about paying $400 for a pair of jeans if they stretch after a few wears.
Do you think i'd be better off ordering 2 pairs of iron heart jeans or getting a few from levi's/apc and putting the money i save towards outerwear and boots.

Assuming that "a few" means 3 or 4 pairs of APC or Levi's, personally, I would get the Iron Hearts. The cost difference won't be enough to make a huge difference if you are buying decent quality outerwear and boots, plus you'll be happier with your denim.
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Originally Posted by Patek View Post

I just picked up a pair of Gilded Age selvage raw jeans on sale from Mr. Porter. The tag says that they will shrink if washed in cold water. I do want them to shrink a little bit but I always thought that hot water did the trick. Should I wear them to break them in first? Anyone have any experience with these?

AFAIK, Gilded Age uses sanforized denim, so the shrinkage should be minimal. If you want them to shrink a little, I would soak them in hot water before you start wearing them.
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Been wearing my APCs nonstop for about a month and they've been speckled by little spots of food here and there. I tried dabbing at one of these spots with seltzer, but stopped as soon as I realized it seemed to be leaching out lots of the indigo. How can I clean up the grime without creating a weird bleached out spot in the denim?

post #16957 of 20553
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Originally Posted by moonquakes View Post

Been wearing my APCs nonstop for about a month and they've been speckled by little spots of food here and there. I tried dabbing at one of these spots with seltzer, but stopped as soon as I realized it seemed to be leaching out lots of the indigo. How can I clean up the grime without creating a weird bleached out spot in the denim?

I wouldn't use the seltzer b/c the carbonation will have more of a lifting effect.. that's why it's good for wine, tomato stains. Maybe just a very small amount of regular water should do the trick.
post #16958 of 20553
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Originally Posted by moonquakes View Post

Been wearing my APCs nonstop for about a month and they've been speckled by little spots of food here and there. I tried dabbing at one of these spots with seltzer, but stopped as soon as I realized it seemed to be leaching out lots of the indigo. How can I clean up the grime without creating a weird bleached out spot in the denim?
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Originally Posted by Kid Nickels View Post

I wouldn't use the seltzer b/c the carbonation will have more of a lifting effect.. that's why it's good for wine, tomato stains. Maybe just a very small amount of regular water should do the trick.

The dabbing will remove indigo where you dab, even with regular water, so if you want the food gone, you'll probably have to do at least a soak/hand wash.
post #16959 of 20553

I have a pair of Diesel Zatiny. I love the fit and the slight boot cut, but the low rise makes them unusable when wearing a tucked shirt and blazer.

 

Is there a selvedge jean with a similar cut I could buy?

post #16960 of 20553
Hey guys. My first pair of raws was Nudies Slim Jim size 31 and i absolutely loved the fit. Now I'm looking at a new pair, Momotaro specifically. I'm looking at either the Momotaro Vintage Label 0201 or the Japan Blue X Momotaro Tight Straight 0700. My issue is I don't want to go slimmer than the slim jims but the money on the slimmer pair looks nicer. Would buying a size 32 in the 0700's and doing an initial soak be good enough or should i just buy the 0201 in size 31 and do initial soak?
post #16961 of 20553
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Originally Posted by commodorewheeler View Post

AFAIK, Gilded Age uses sanforized denim, so the shrinkage should be minimal. If you want them to shrink a little, I would soak them in hot water before you start wearing them.

Thanks! So, is GA on crack saying that washing them in cold water will shrink them?
post #16962 of 20553
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Originally Posted by Patek View Post

Thanks! So, is GA on crack saying that washing them in cold water will shrink them?

Not necessarily, all raw denim shrinks to some degree upon contact with water. IME, when the water is cold, the shrinkage is minimal, even on unsanforized denim.
post #16963 of 20553
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Originally Posted by commodorewheeler View Post

Not necessarily, all raw denim shrinks to some degree upon contact with water. IME, when the water is cold, the shrinkage is minimal, even on unsanforized denim.

I understand that, but why would they put a warning label inside the jeans saying that cold water will cause the jeans to shrink? If it was all water or hot water, you think they would have said so--especially since the jeans are made in the US and there is not much of a chnace of a translation error.
post #16964 of 20553
What do you all think of these jeans for my first pair of raw denim:

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=123
post #16965 of 20553
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Originally Posted by Patek View Post

I understand that, but why would they put a warning label inside the jeans saying that cold water will cause the jeans to shrink? If it was all water or hot water, you think they would have said so--especially since the jeans are made in the US and there is not much of a chnace of a translation error.

I couldn't tell you why they would choose to word it that way, but I can tell you that there is no denim in existence that only shrinks in cold water. All denim will shrink even more in hot water than it does in cold water, assuming that it is made out of cotton.
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Originally Posted by IDH View Post

What do you all think of these jeans for my first pair of raw denim:
http://www.ironheart.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=123

I think they are an excellent choice, brand and construction-wise. Be aware that that particular cut has a pretty wide leg opening for a slim jean. Some people like that, some people don't.
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