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post #16831 of 20638
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Originally Posted by commodorewheeler View Post


The sooner you wash, the less contrast you get on your fades. Other than that, though, there's no harm in washing denim sooner.

Although I've personally never gotten anything super-distinct from only six months... I just must not fade easily (esp. combs)
post #16832 of 20638
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Although I've personally never gotten anything super-distinct from only six months... I just must not fade easily (esp. combs)

Results do vary from wearer to wearer, of course. Lately, I haven't been able to wear denim as much as before, so my fades are happening slower now too. But 6 months is a pretty good baseline for the average wearer, I think.
post #16833 of 20638

Dunno, quality wise they seem quite nice. The denim on the model I have (http://shop.acnestudios.com/shop/men/aw11/jeans/jones-coal.html) is still relatively stiff and thick.

 

How you determine quality of construction?

 

Cool then, I suppose I'll just give shrinking a shot; actually, the label inside states to expect a shrinkage of one size even on 30 degrees, although I suspect that's a matter of protocol :D But no matter, I thought only trying this, and if it doesn't work out, I just won't wash them.

I'm not too much into contrasts anyway.

 

I just put them into a hot bathtub, and it's really nice how visible the indigo leaving the jean is. Very interesting to learn about clothes this way, thanks a lot for your thorough answer.

post #16834 of 20638
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Originally Posted by ahtlast View Post

Dunno, quality wise they seem quite nice. The denim on the model I have (http://shop.acnestudios.com/shop/men/aw11/jeans/jones-coal.html) is still relatively stiff and thick.

Of course, your opinion of Acne's denim will depend on what other denims you have seen. Compared to jeans in the sub-$100 range or most fashion brand jeans, the Acne denim will be superior. But compared to something like Iron Heart or Samurai denim, it will be clearly inferior. I'd put Acne's denim, from what I've seen of it, around the same level as APC's denim, though I do think that the construction is more solid on APC than Acne.
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Originally Posted by ahtlast View Post

How you determine quality of construction?

There are several things to look at as far as construction goes, but for Acne specifically, from the jeans that I've seen and owned by them, my biggest issue with them has been that the stitching has been thin, flimsy, and at times uneven.
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Originally Posted by ahtlast View Post

Cool then, I suppose I'll just give shrinking a shot; actually, the label inside states to expect a shrinkage of one size even on 30 degrees, although I suspect that's a matter of protocol biggrin.gifBut no matter, I thought only trying this, and if it doesn't work out, I just won't wash them.
I'm not too much into contrasts anyway.

You've got it backwards. Not washing actually give you more contrast.
post #16835 of 20638

Yes, these Acne jeans was my first pair of what I can consider "quality denim". I'll look into Iron Heart and Samurai.

I actually got it, of course, just worded that part strangely; the "not washing" part I meant I won't wash them afterwards to retain the colour. The "don't like contrasts" was that I'll wash them, because I don't really care for contrasts. Probably an oxymoron, but it makes sense to me.

 

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There are several things to look at as far as construction goes,
 


Still, I'm interested in this. What's a well constructed brand of jeans?

 

post #16836 of 20638
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Originally Posted by ahtlast View Post

Yes, these Acne jeans was my first pair of what I can consider "quality denim". I'll look into Iron Heart and Samurai.
I actually got it, of course, just worded that part strangely; the "not washing" part I meant I won't wash them afterwards to retain the colour. The "don't like contrasts" was that I'll wash them, because I don't really care for contrasts. Probably an oxymoron, but it makes sense to me.


Still, I'm interested in this. What's a well constructed brand of jeans?

I don't have time to get into all of the ins and outs of what makes a jean well-constructed or not, but I can point you to examples. Pretty much any brand of jeans sold at blueingreensoho.com or selfedge.com other than maybe 3sixteen will have the highest level of construction that you can find in denim today. There will be variances in quality among these brands, but they are all around the same level. Personally, I find Studio D'Artisan (a Blue in Green brand) and Iron Heart (a Self Edge brand) to be the best of all of them, but they are all high level.
post #16837 of 20638
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Originally Posted by commodorewheeler View Post

I don't have time to get into all of the ins and outs of what makes a jean well-constructed or not, but I can point you to examples. Pretty much any brand of jeans sold at blueingreensoho.com or selfedge.com other than maybe 3sixteen will have the highest level of construction that you can find in denim today. There will be variances in quality among these brands, but they are all around the same level. Personally, I find Studio D'Artisan (a Blue in Green brand) and Iron Heart (a Self Edge brand) to be the best of all of them, but they are all high level.

there are some decent designer jeans as well. but they tend to focus more on the fit then the actual inputs. for example, japanese selvage will typically have weighty high quality denim, the threading will be better quality, patches use unique high quality leather, etc. its not that designer jeans use poor quality materials but it certainly isnt as good as high end japanese lines. but japanese repos tend to not have the best fits so its a tradeoff like anything else ... do you fuck the cool fat chick or the skinny girl that cant hold a conversation? its a dilemma.
post #16838 of 20638

I just got my first ever pair of raw denim from Taylor Stitch (Japanese denin "Indigo's") as an X-mas gift from my wife. While I'm normally a 34 waist, they were so tight I couldn't button them up. Fortunately, I exchanged them yesterday for a pair of 35 waist jeans which happen to fit me perfectly.  I look forward to breaking them in, and I'm told by the clerk not to wash the jeans for "as long as possible" and only then to soak in cold water with just a little soap. While not washing jeans for months may be an acceptable option for a 20-something hipster, I will likely be wearing them to the office regularly (work in Biotech) and don't know if that will be an accceptable option for a middle-aging hipster like moi. Just curious what others experiences are with raw denin, specifically in terms of long term care?

post #16839 of 20638
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Originally Posted by ShoeFetish View Post

I just got my first ever pair of raw denim from Taylor Stitch (Japanese denin "Indigo's") as an X-mas gift from my wife. While I'm normally a 34 waist, they were so tight I couldn't button them up. Fortunately, I exchanged them yesterday for a pair of 35 waist jeans which happen to fit me perfectly.  I look forward to breaking them in, and I'm told by the clerk not to wash the jeans for "as long as possible" and only then to soak in cold water with just a little soap. While not washing jeans for months may be an acceptable option for a 20-something hipster, I will likely be wearing them to the office regularly (work in Biotech) and don't know if that will be an accceptable option for a middle-aging hipster like moi. Just curious what others experiences are with raw denin, specifically in terms of long term care?

As an 52 year old man I'm wearing all my raw denim stuff for many years now never washed in 3 stages:

First as nice pants in the office
Then as secoond class jeans for leisure and outdoor activities
At the end as work pants for heavy jobs like painting, repairing engines or whatever

I always strt breaking in a new pants after hot summer time, so no sweatty pants during the whole cold season.
And that way I can wear them a long time in the office without any troubles (I'm just working in front of a computer)
post #16840 of 20638

Just got a pair of JB x Momo 0100sps as my first raw denim from Blue Owl, however it seems the waist sizing for JB x Momo is more tts than the recommendations Jay put on his website. I thought I ordered one size down, but it turned out to be two sizes down and much too tight to button, so I consulted Jay who recommended just trying to wear them in, and it seemed to work until the third time I tried to try them on, which was yesterday, ended up like this

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Should I send them back to Jay to be repaired or can this be done at home?

 

Also, can you give some tips for stretching out the waistbands of pants or is this a lost cause?

post #16841 of 20638
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Originally Posted by ShoeFetish View Post

I just got my first ever pair of raw denim from Taylor Stitch (Japanese denin "Indigo's") as an X-mas gift from my wife. While I'm normally a 34 waist, they were so tight I couldn't button them up. Fortunately, I exchanged them yesterday for a pair of 35 waist jeans which happen to fit me perfectly.  I look forward to breaking them in, and I'm told by the clerk not to wash the jeans for "as long as possible" and only then to soak in cold water with just a little soap. While not washing jeans for months may be an acceptable option for a 20-something hipster, I will likely be wearing them to the office regularly (work in Biotech) and don't know if that will be an accceptable option for a middle-aging hipster like moi. Just curious what others experiences are with raw denin, specifically in terms of long term care?

As far as the basics go when it comes to wash frequency, washing your jeans sooner and more often will cause them to fade evenly faster. Going longer without washing and washing less often will give you more contrast in your fades.

As long as your jeans don't stink, and as long as they are not visibly dirty, it is probably perfectly OK to continue wearing them without washing them, even to the office. That is how I have worn my jeans to work in the past, and nobody ever complained or shot me dirty looks. I do wash as soon as they start to stink or become visibly dirty, especially if I am wearing the jeans to work.

Soapy soaks are a perfectly good alternative to a wash. They won't get the smell out as well as a wash if your jeans do stink, but they cause you to lose less indigo, so they cause a lesser amount of uniform fading than a real wash.
post #16842 of 20638

So in the Noob thread I was told that express jeans quality is crap. I thought they were decent jeans every pair I have ever had..help up for a while. So, I figured I might be returning the six pair I bought and getting less but better quality. I figured this would as good of a place as any to be pointed in the right direction for a good begginner quality jean! Thanks guys :D

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post #16844 of 20638
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Originally Posted by AmericanLion View Post

So in the Noob thread I was told that express jeans quality is crap. I thought they were decent jeans every pair I have ever had..help up for a while. So, I figured I might be returning the six pair I bought and getting less but better quality. I figured this would as good of a place as any to be pointed in the right direction for a good begginner quality jean! Thanks guys biggrin.gif

What price range are you looking in?
post #16845 of 20638
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Originally Posted by Dinhilion View Post

Any info on these? Sizing, construction etc.
http://www.epauletshop.com/servlet/the-856/*EP's-Smith-Slim-dsh-Straight-Jean/Detail

If there is a right size for you get them. Price is awesome and Nihon Menpu sources to other quality brands like 3Sixteen/PS/Sugar Cane
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