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i'll check out raleigh. left field's pants waist 28 has a 8" leg opening can't be happening with me.
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Originally Posted by ceoceo View Post

Because Natural indigo jeans are nasty bitch to fade and novices usually come to raw denim for strong fades (in a short amount of time) after realizing 99.9% predistressed jeans in the market are shitty and unrealistic

yes, natural indigo is tougher to fade (especially the ai pbj and oni shoai's) but i dont think that is a reason to avoid them. if people want fast fading jeans buy pre-faded designs. there are many companies, e.g., sda, full count, somet, that offer pretty fucking realistic fades for those that do want to wear jeans every day for a year to get some good fading. i just bought some pre-faded lvc's that i think are awesome and i have been wearing raw denim for ~ five years.
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I now have the pair of momos to compare the dry bones to.  All I can say is that they are very different jeans:

momo 0705sp vs dry bones Red-D.

awesome. thanks.
Edited by whatever123 - 12/16/11 at 3:23pm
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thanks, dude. yeah, I'm psyched to get them...measured my waist at a 36.5, closest per BiG is the tagged 34 with a 36" waist. you think they'll stretch enough to accommodate my 36.5" self? looks like the thigh measurement on those (13.5") is also a bit bigger than the APC NS (12"), which I remember being pretty snug initially.

oh yeah ... you will get at least an inch of stretch, that is what my 005s give. other somet owners will be able to verify this.

if i were you i would look at the size 33 in the 003 if your waist is 36.5. you may find the 34 would be a little to big for your tastes. but again, i dont know how you like to wear your jeans.

the other thing i would do is take a couple minutes and call them and ask them to measure the 33 and 34s they have so they can send you the pair that will suit you best.
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When it comes to fading, I can recommend you all of those brands. If you wanna get strong and heavy fadings, just wait a long time before first wash and all of them will turn out great.
About cut and style I'm not such an expert. And I'm wearing all my raw denim stuff in a real old styled manner one size too big.

I have to disagree on KMW. The natural indigo of KMW makes it notoriously hard to fade. Natural indigo dyed denim should never be recommended to newbies

Yeah you're right. I forgot about the less patient newbies. Since I'm the old guy here, who is breaking in all jeans at least 2 years plus in constant daily wear. That means 600 days and more in a row. Since I started breaking in raw denim stuff in 1973 all raw denim brands I have used so far ended up with great and strong fadings after heavy use, including the hard to fade ones.
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Is BiG the only place to kop some Oni Blue fit jeans? They're out for a few months until the next production run in the spring, not sure if I can wait that long.
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Is BiG the only place to kop some Oni Blue fit jeans? They're out for a few months until the next production run in the spring, not sure if I can wait that long.

yes they are.

oni is a very small company that does one or two runs a year. get the shoais ... those are the blue cut.
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yes they are.
oni is a very small company that does one or two runs a year. get the shoais ... those are the blue cut.

I don't want to spend close to $700 on a pair of jeans. I'll wait for the Blues to be restocked.
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I don't want to spend close to $700 on a pair of jeans. I'll wait for the Blues to be restocked.

Instant baller status.eek.gif
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Seriously wish that I could fast forward in time another 9 months. I'm just now starting to see some good fades on my NS's after 3 months of constant wear. It's such torture.

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By the way, anyone familiar with women's denim? My GF is almost sold on raw denim but I don't really know what's out there for the ladies. I know nudies(bleh) have some. APC? N&F?

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Originally Posted by Liet View Post

By the way, anyone familiar with women's denim? My GF is almost sold on raw denim but I don't really know what's out there for the ladies. I know nudies(bleh) have some. APC? N&F?

mina wears gucci jeans and she like those. you need to go to the gucci store to buy i think. they fit smaller women very well.

if you want japanese denim, which is going to be the best out there, pure blue japan has some great models. samurai also has a nice fitting jeans but it is made from heavier denim. studio d artisian, skull, and somet all make nice womens jeans as well.

here is a link to the better japanese womens denim:


http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=108&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62
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It makes no sense to pay the retail markup if the goods can be had for less. If I bought straight from the Samurai in Japan, I'd pay full price. If it's at a retailer, then no. Look at N&F for example, normally Barney's has them for a crazy discount (collabs included, down to $109 this summer). Now I wouldn't buy the new ONIs for $275 if I don't need them right away since they could be had easily for $109-169 in a few months. Brandon probably got mad, since now N&F are not discounted at all and if I needed a pair of jeans, I'd probably buy at retail then.

Actually, this is not true. The collabs you saw for $169 and then $109 were on clearance at the end of the season, being cleared out by Barney's for all of the fall stuff. The Oni collabs will go on sale like that, it there are any left, at the end of this season as well.
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Rogue territory, Raleigh, Left Field all make a indigo dyed canvas trouser. Rogue territory might be sold out now, but Raleigh and Left Field should both have stock

ROY also makes an indigo-dyed canvas trouser. Probably the nicest one of the bunch as far as I have seen, but it may be sold out by now as well.
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Is BiG the only place to kop some Oni Blue fit jeans? They're out for a few months until the next production run in the spring, not sure if I can wait that long.

You can buy Oni at any of several Rakuten stores online in Japan who will ship directly to the US if you can't wait, but I prefer to buy from BiG for multiple reasons:

1. It's good to support domestic retailers, especially niche retailers who carry something that interests you.

2. At current exchange rates, the pricing is probably actually better at BiG. Especially when you account for international shipping costs, possible customs fees depending on method of delivery, and free hemming from BiG.

3. Most Rakuten stores do not accept returns or exchanges on international orders. So if you order the wrong size or just don't like what you bought, you are SOL with many Rakuten stores.
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Originally Posted by Liet View Post

By the way, anyone familiar with women's denim? My GF is almost sold on raw denim but I don't really know what's out there for the ladies. I know nudies(bleh) have some. APC? N&F?

My wife wears one of the Samurai Geisha models (can't remember exactly which one), I think it looks really good on her. I also particularly like Studio D'Artisan's and Pure Blue Japan's ladies models as well. For something different that is made in the USA, my wife really likes Rising Sun & Co's ladies models even more than her Samurais, but they are really expensive (more than the Japanese brands) and not selvage either, if that matters to you at all.
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Originally Posted by commodorewheeler View Post

You can buy Oni at any of several Rakuten stores online in Japan who will ship directly to the US if you can't wait, but I prefer to buy from BiG for multiple reasons:
1. It's good to support domestic retailers, especially niche retailers who carry something that interests you.
2. At current exchange rates, the pricing is probably actually better at BiG. Especially when you account for international shipping costs, possible customs fees depending on method of delivery, and free hemming from BiG.
3. Most Rakuten stores do not accept returns or exchanges on international orders. So if you order the wrong size or just don't like what you bought, you are SOL with many Rakuten stores.

Yeah, I plan on ordering from BiG, I was just wondering the alternatives. I'm in no real rush for them, I have other items I need to buy in the near future... cordovan Alden boots mmm... And I'm technically in Canada, but I'd stil llike to support a North American company.
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Suggestions for "dressy" slim black jeans?
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