Originally Posted by entrero
Don't confuse nostalgia with facts. Hidden rivets are made obsolete since the invention of bartacking. In fact, I might go as far to say that rivets on a 5-pocket jeans serve a more cosmetic role rather than a functional one.
What he said. Hidden rivets haven't kept my back pockets in place nor have back pockets fallen off my jeans without hidden rivets. Chain stitching stays true to tradition but is objectively
weaker than a lock stitch.
If you start saying that $200 jeans must have x, y, and z details to be durable then you're just kidding yourself. Being sewn like shit is a far bigger factor than hidden rivets in terms of durability. It's just as a consumer you're told that x, y, and z add value to the piece, so much so that jeans without those details appear inferior when, in the bigger picture, perhaps they're not.
In an upcoming interview with Rogue Territory, Karl mentions how he puts out a pair of trousers and receives emails from people telling him how much they love the cut, fit, finish, and hand... but if only it were selvage. It's consumer brainwashing at its best with the blame resting on the retailers as much as the consumers on here regurgitating it as gospel.