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yeah photo isn't the best, but that's the sort of colour im after.
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And a second, unrelated question r.e. raw denim - first timer here.

I'm looking at getting the Norse Projects two jeans (http://www.norseprojects.com/store/pants/two-jeans-n30-0002). I'm 6". Not sure if I would need 33x32 or 33x34. Would the 32" inseam likely be too short after shrinkage?

I generally wear chinos/dress pants cuffed or with little to no break. My pants are all hemmed to a 30" inseam or so.

Thanks

I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure those are sanforized, so there isn't likely to be too much shrinking. I'd go for the 32, since it will give you some room to be able to cuff, pinroll etc. Just curious why you'd choose Norse as your first raw denim, especially for the price. No hate in the decision, just wondering why you woudn't have chosen a brand known for their denim. Take another look at 3sixteen, Baldwin, Rogue Territory, Naked and Famous, or Tellason for some modern, quality jeans. Just an idea, but if you like those then fo gor it!
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Thank you folks.
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i am debating betwn APC NS and RRL Slim fits. which one should i go with? anyone who have both can give some ideas?
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Just picked up a pair of the Jcrew 484 Raw Selvage for my first pair of selvage denim. Not a top brand, but, oh well. Just seeing if I like selvage. Anyhow, will the inseam on these shits shrink after the first wash?
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i am debating betwn APC NS and RRL Slim fits. which one should i go with? anyone who have both can give some ideas?
Apples and oranges in terms of fit and quality. Would pick RRL every time, though.
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Just picked up a pair of the Jcrew 484 Raw Selvage for my first pair of selvage denim. Not a top brand, but, oh well. Just seeing if I like selvage. Anyhow, will the inseam on these shits shrink after the first wash?
Not by much.
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I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure those are sanforized, so there isn't likely to be too much shrinking. I'd go for the 32, since it will give you some room to be able to cuff, pinroll etc. Just curious why you'd choose Norse as your first raw denim, especially for the price. No hate in the decision, just wondering why you woudn't have chosen a brand known for their denim. Take another look at 3sixteen, Baldwin, Rogue Territory, Naked and Famous, or Tellason for some modern, quality jeans. Just an idea, but if you like those then fo gor it!

Thanks, I was going to pick up some from eBay for $80, unfortunately I chickened out at the last minute because I wasn't sure on sizing. Should've grabbed them though as it turns out!!
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I got an issue -

I recently took a trip overseas and packed my raw denim to take with me. When I got home, I noticed that the denim has a sort of musty smell to it from being in the suitcase (plus my bag didn't arrive for days because of Irene).

Obviously I don't want to wash it just yet, but what else can I do to get rid of the musty smell? Fabreeze?

Thanks in advance.
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Quick Question: 3sixteen versus APC NS. What are pros and cons of each?
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^ I think the APC NS can be worn really slim considering that it will stretch. other than that, I can't really think of any other pros. 3sixteen uses better denim, less stretch and fades better imo. I think the only con of 3sixteen is that it might be at a slightly higher price point than APC but I'm sure you can find a pair at woodlands or blueowl or selfedge.
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Quick Question: 3sixteen versus APC NS. What are pros and cons of each?

I used to own the APC NS (in indigo and black) and currently own the 3sixteen st-100x. The 3sixteen is a better jean, IMO. The 3sixteen denim feels much higher quality than APC denim. It is more dense (less stretchy), thicker, has a smooth peachy feel inside and out, and is woven in Japan (jean itself is sewn together in USA). Even though it is raw, it is quite soft and flexible even when brand new, which I was surprised to see. The 3sixteen also has better quality hardware (buttons, rivets) and is a little better sewn together than APC.
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I got an issue -

I recently took a trip overseas and packed my raw denim to take with me. When I got home, I noticed that the denim has a sort of musty smell to it from being in the suitcase (plus my bag didn't arrive for days because of Irene).

Obviously I don't want to wash it just yet, but what else can I do to get rid of the musty smell? Fabreeze?

Thanks in advance.

Air them out? Soak?
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I got an issue -

I recently took a trip overseas and packed my raw denim to take with me. When I got home, I noticed that the denim has a sort of musty smell to it from being in the suitcase (plus my bag didn't arrive for days because of Irene).

Obviously I don't want to wash it just yet, but what else can I do to get rid of the musty smell? Fabreeze?

Thanks in advance.

Let the air out with some febreeze, thats the best way. You could also throw them in the freezer over night. Just toss them in a bag, leave them overnight and they'll be alot less smelly when you take em out in the morning, some people swear by this..
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Quick Question: 3sixteen versus APC NS. What are pros and cons of each?

This is a great read from putthison. Take a look :


APCs tend to be the standard recommendation for people looking to get their first pair of quality jeans. In my experience, there are disadvantages to the old standard. They stretch out much more than other jeans, have poor stitching, and aren’t built from Japanese denim. I recently had a great conversation with Kiya Babzani, co-owner of Self Edge, one of the leading denim shops in the world, about why APCs have become so popular, despite their mediocre quality.

“APCs got into the scene really early and offered a raw selvedge jean with nothing on the back pockets at a good price,” Kiya explained. “There are other brands but most of [them] have a very Americana look to their branding. APCs were a crossroads between fashion and classic […] a more simple, almost ‘fashion,’ look as opposed to a straight reproduction vintage style look which was originally designed for workwear.”

Nowadays, however, we have more options in the sub-$200 price point, and for such buys, I think 3sixteen’s jeans are the best that you can get. Unlike APCs, they’re actually made from Japanese denim (specifically a 14.5 oz red-line selvedge denim woven at Kuroki Mills).

“The Japanese have mastered the art of producing denim, and textiles in general,” Kiya said. “Their textile producing techniques date back further than most of the world, as they produced extremely complex (even for today) fabrics for kimonos, which were dyed with the most exotic dyes and woven on wooden looms.”

What’s so special about 3sixteen’s particular Japanese denim? For one, it’s woven exclusively for them, which is rare for a company that isn’t the size of Levis or Gap. The material is pure indigo dyed, with no sulfur, which gives the jeans a deeper blue color than many other models you’ll find on the market. At the same time, there is minimal processing, which allows the denim to retain some hairiness and prevents it from looking too sleek or uniform. They also have an interesting weave. The 14.5oz weight gives the jeans some heft, but the open ended weft yarns leave the jeans fairly soft on the inside. In short, the denim is some of the most handsome I’ve seen and comfortable I’ve worn.

The best thing about the jeans, however, is the fit. While the company makes a slim tapered model (ST-100x), I favor the straight legged (SL-100x). They have a respectable rise and a flattering fit all around. If you like the fit of slim, but not skinny, trousers, you’ll probably like the fit of the SL-100x.

You can get a pair from Self Edge for $195. They’ll hem your jeans with a traditional chainstitch for free, which will give you a roping effect as your jeans age. That’s still a bit pricey for many people, to be sure, but if you’re looking to get some quality jeans, I can’t think of a better first buy.
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Abcdenim,

Thanks for the great information. After looking at the 3sixteen on selfedge, I believe they are all 300$. Where did you see that a pair of 3sixteen could be had for 195$ at selfedge?
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