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post #15736 of 20762
I have some RRL's that I bought probably around 8 months ago that I haven't washed. I've been cuffing them pretty deep because I need to get them hemmed and have been waiting until I could afford a pair of Momotaros before I get back to Context to get these hemmed. The bottom area where they've been cuffed has partially worn through. Also, again, they have never been washed.

Is it possible for me to get these hemmed without washing, if I'm not planning on washing them? Is that a bad idea? Is the wear on the bottom going to negatively impact the quality of the hem?
post #15737 of 20762
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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

I have some RRL's that I bought probably around 8 months ago that I haven't washed. I've been cuffing them pretty deep because I need to get them hemmed and have been waiting until I could afford a pair of Momotaros before I get back to Context to get these hemmed. The bottom area where they've been cuffed has partially worn through. Also, again, they have never been washed.

Is it possible for me to get these hemmed without washing, if I'm not planning on washing them? Is that a bad idea? Is the wear on the bottom going to negatively impact the quality of the hem?

So you bought a pair of jeans which were too long, hence the need for a cuff. But you didn't get them hemmed untill you had the funds to purchase a pair of Momotaro's.

Is it just me, or does this sound real silly. You don't need a reason to get jeans hemmed, other than the fact that they are too long.

To answer your question. I think you should have hemmed the jeans right away. I doubt any tailor or hemming service wants to shorten the hem on your pair of RRL's, for the sole reason these aren't washed.

If hemming is possible, it's likely affected by how much length you want to loose and the state of the fabric. The denim could have worn thin or is brittle, chances are the hem isn't going to work out as you wanted.
post #15738 of 20762
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Originally Posted by Mistral 
So you bought a pair of jeans which were too long, hence the need for a cuff. But you didn't get them hemmed untill you had the funds to purchase a pair of Momotaro's.

Context is 2 hours away, I wanted to make the trip worthwhile instead of driving all that way just to get these hemmed. I didn't get them hemmed when I bought them because the sales dude there (forgot his name) told me to break them in for a few weeks before getting them hemmed. It's been this long because what originally turned out to be a few weeks before having money for a new pair turned out to be a few months. In the mean time I've just been cuffing them, but they have gotten brittle at the cuff crease and have worn through a bit on one leg.

Regarding hemming, I know that you're generally supposed to wash jeans first, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of purchasing raw denim?
post #15739 of 20762
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Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post


Context is 2 hours away, I wanted to make the trip worthwhile instead of driving all that way just to get these hemmed. I didn't get them hemmed when I bought them because the sales dude there (forgot his name) told me to break them in for a few weeks before getting them hemmed. It's been this long because what originally turned out to be a few weeks before having money for a new pair turned out to be a few months. In the mean time I've just been cuffing them, but they have gotten brittle at the cuff crease and have worn through a bit on one leg.

Regarding hemming, I know that you're generally supposed to wash jeans first, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of purchasing raw denim?

You can hem either dry or after soak. If you hem dry it's wise to leave a bit of extra length for shrinkage. But I think in this case the jeans need to be washed for hygenic reasons. Do you expect a tailor to work on filthy clothes? No... Why should the guys at Context want to?


If you buy a STF jean, what would be the purpose of raw denim then? Raw is just a term, has nothing to do with water or washing if you don't think too hard about it. It just means the jeans are untreated, undistressed etc. (and yes, normally untouched by water, *sigh*)

** By the way, before I get comments on the whole raw talk, I know what it is... But sometimes people think about it too much **
post #15740 of 20762
If you plan wearing them unwashed for some more time, (what the Jeansmuseum would recommend) I wouldn't hem them.

In fact I would never hem a jeans since I like it wearing them cuffed.
Just repair them around the weak or broken cuff area and let the cuffed jeans age their natural way.

And you also don't risk to get too short jeans in case you'll wash them anytime later. Raw denim can shrink quite a bit!!
post #15741 of 20762
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Originally Posted by lummers13 View Post


The ones I've been to and picked up at least a pair from are:
Penelope's - http://shoppenelopes.com/
Haberdash - http://www.haberdashmen.com/
Barneys - http://www.barneys.com/Store-Locations/STORE_CHICAGO,default,pg.html
Untitled - http://www.yelp.com/biz/untitled-chicago

Any particular brand that you're looking for?

The Belmont Army store in Wicker Park will be carrying lots of Raw denim this fall. Re-stock on N&F, Tellason and others.
post #15742 of 20762

What are some high quality raw denim brands with a minimalistic design like APCs? I know there are many, but what is the absolute bang for your buck in terms of high quality denim?

post #15743 of 20762
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Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post

What are some high quality raw denim brands with a minimalistic design like APCs? I know there are many, but what is the absolute bang for your buck in terms of high quality denim?


Sugar Cane?
post #15744 of 20762
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Originally Posted by HAL 9000 View Post

What are some high quality raw denim brands with a minimalistic design like APCs? I know there are many, but what is the absolute bang for your buck in terms of high quality denim?


http://www.styleforum.net/t/157881/non-apc-sub-200-raw-selvage-denim-options
post #15745 of 20762
i like eternals a lot, skulls are nice but fade quick same with flat heads. LVC's and diors are nice too. Momotaro looks pretty simple too
post #15746 of 20762
Denime has also some nice minimal designed raw denim stuff

Check out the Denime evolution on my current project: wearing for the Jeansmuseum

https://picasaweb.google.com/116118427799433045500/DenimeJeansContestStartFebruary222010?authkey=Gv1sRgCMTApuH-_qLcIQ

Jeansmuseum, Ruedi Karrer, Wibichstr. 90, 8037 Zuerich, Switzerland, ruedi.karrer@sunrise.ch
044 463 46 92, 079 578 00 51,www.jeansmuseum.org (old, new site in 2012), rkarrer@jeansmuseum.org
PS: Always real roughest vintage or raw denim rag items wanted, no matter how ugly, stained, dirty, filthy,. Thanks for sustaining Europes largest non commercial denim rag collection founded in the Swiss mountains in 1973 at a time when teachers and parents didn't like rock music, long hair and worn out jeans at all (12'000 items).
post #15747 of 20762

I wear nudie organic raw in thin finn 29 waist. Looking to get a pair of APC new standards.

what size apc would i get? Also heard it similar to the slim jim.

and wheres the cheapest to buy a pair online? I've checked denimbar

 

Thanks!

 

 

post #15748 of 20762
Anyone have experience with RRL Slim jeans regarding stretching?

I tried on some RRL Slim Rinse (one wash) jeans in a 30w and they fit perfectly everywhere but I was wondering if they were going to stretch a sizable amount to warrant sizing down to a 29? (store didn't have any 29's to try on)

And would Raw vs. One-Wash be any different stretch-wise?

For Reference:
I'm a true 32w
APC PS size 29
Samurai 710xx 31 (could maybe do a 30)

TIA
post #15749 of 20762

Yo, I think I got ass fucked by my local tailor.

 

Backstory: Went to get my unbrandeds hemmed at local tailor because they were too long. Didn't wash before because I want to wear em unwashed and I plan on getting much better denim in a few months (right when I would probably go *sniff* "Time to wash!") and thus the unbrandeds would be more beater status so if they shrink I'm willing to live with it. I guess that's dumb reasoning but I wanted to wear em unwashed and then wash. Anywhooo, I go to the tailor and pick up the finished product. I try them on and like the length uncuffed and then I rolled the jeans up to expose this:

 

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And this is what I'm calling the "taco meat" when I double cuff to try to somewhat hide that shit:

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I'm as big as a noob as they come, but this can't be par for the course right? Is there any way to fix this? This is my first pair of selvage jeans so idk what's what, especially when it comes time to hem, but I just keep looking at these jeans and going "This can't be right."

post #15750 of 20762
Looks like you asked your tailor to preserve the original hem...and he did exactly that lol.
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