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post #1441 of 21424
can you actually fit into the kmws though? if they are skin tight now, they will stretch out an inch or 1.5 and give you a slim fit in the thigh later on.

unless you want your premium jean to be slightly baggy in the thigh like the facconable and levis you have.

id say keep them and try to work into your fit tastes this new type of fit. it may grow on you and later you may just look for a snug /slim thigh.
post #1442 of 21424
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Originally Posted by Tourangh View Post
I was told that for my first pair of raw denim to not get a japanese brand since it is for more experienced buyers. There are a lot of Japanese jeans that catch my eye but I am trying to not get one for a first pair. And yup I know I have a flathead on the lsit.


i dont think this is true, i just got into denim as well but already own 3 japanese brands, and others that are US brands but made in japan or with japan denim.

maybe one of their concerns would be the unsanforized or raw state that needs to be properly soaked before wearing and knowing how to buy your size.

the other i can think of would be some japanese denim comes in a very rough,uneven slubby texture which is an acquired taste in itself.
post #1443 of 21424
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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
can you actually fit into the kmws though? if they are skin tight now, they will stretch out an inch or 1.5 and give you a slim fit in the thigh later on.

unless you want your premium jean to be slightly baggy in the thigh like the facconable and levis you have.

id say keep them and try to work into your fit tastes this new type of fit. it may grow on you and later you may just look for a snug /slim thigh.

Ya I can fit them and button all the buttons with some difficulty. I am leaning towards getting rid of the jeans and swapping them for a new one. Any recommendations if this is the path I choose?
Someone on SuFu is selling Imperial Kings for about $190 shipped I believe. It looked like an appealing choice since they would be a similar fit to what I am used to wearing now.
post #1444 of 21424
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Ya I can fit them and button all the buttons with some difficulty. I am leaning towards getting rid of the jeans and swapping them for a new one. Any recommendations if this is the path I choose?
Someone on SuFu is selling Imperial Kings for about $190 shipped I believe. It looked like an appealing choice since they would be a similar fit to what I am used to wearing now.

just fyi, ive had a couple of raw denim (helmut lang and levis) that initially was very difficult to button up, but now after a dozen wears i had to wear a belt with.

not saying the kmws will stretch out that much, but possible. plus, not sure the fit of the imperials,
but the kmw for what you paid is far better than the imperials.
post #1445 of 21424
If you think they are the correct waist and its the thighs that are a problem, you should probably get rid of them. I never see all that much stretching in the thighs. Though, sometimes it feels like it because the waist stretches and the jeans sit lower.
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Originally Posted by PG2G View Post
If you think they are the correct waist and its the thighs that are a problem, you should probably get rid of them. I never see all that much stretching in the thighs. Though, sometimes it feels like it because the waist stretches and the jeans sit lower.

Ya the thight was pretty tight, nearly skin tight. And the rise isn't high enough where I could really sag them that much. I might look in to a new pair.
So any new recommendations?
Are Imperial Kings worth it at $190 or just stick with somthing like APC NS or the universal beginner jean, RRDS.
post #1448 of 21424
Def get APC over Nudie...and you may want to look into Rescues if you like the 1980/RRDS silhouette.

Also, not sure what you meant by this:

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Originally Posted by Tourangh View Post
And the rise isn't high enough where I could really sag them that much.

A low rise cut is meant to be sagged...right? Otherwise your balls be hurtin...

Also, check your pm.
post #1449 of 21424
Thread Starter 
Low-rise sagged? I thought the idea of a low-rise is to get rid of the anti-fit and just have it sit exactly at your hips. If you sagged a low-rise pair, I'm sure you'd either quickly make some new friends or at least have a misdemeanor conviction.
post #1450 of 21424
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Low-rise sagged? I thought the idea of a low-rise is to get rid of the anti-fit and just have it sit exactly at your hips.

If you sagged a low-rise pair, I'm sure you'd either quickly make some new friends or at least have a misdemeanor conviction.

lol.
correct. you cannot sag a lowrise. you got to pull them up all the way.
post #1451 of 21424
whodini, PG2G,

so i got my raw xx005. the size 31 i got is pretty huge: it measures to about 33.5 inches in waist.


now the post soak measurement claims 31 inches.

which is a good shrink down,
as i wear and stretch out naturally, you guys mention that it is about an extra inch on top of that post soak measurement.


however,


doesnt it eventually stretch back out to the original pre soak measurement of 33.5 inches in the waist?
that is my concern. with hard wear. do they stay shrunk permanently somewhat and never go back out to original presoak measurement
or
they are destined to go back out all loose again?
post #1452 of 21424
They stretch just like a non-sanforized pair would stretch. After a soak, they shouldn't be thought of any differently than a pair of one-wash or sanforized jeans. The amount of stretch will vary, it could be back to the pre-shrunk measurements, it could be signifigantly less.

Look at the difference in stretching between APC and some of the other brands.

For what its worth, I bought my PBJ AI-001 one wash in a 32. I have never had a problem with them stretching too much.
post #1453 of 21424
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Originally Posted by whodini View Post
Low-rise sagged? I thought the idea of a low-rise is to get rid of the anti-fit and just have it sit exactly at your hips.

If you sagged a low-rise pair, I'm sure you'd either quickly make some new friends or at least have a misdemeanor conviction.

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Originally Posted by shoe View Post
lol.
correct. you cannot sag a lowrise. you got to pull them up all the way.

Uh, maybe I'm way off here, but I think you have it backwards - you can sag both, but a high-rise is that way so you can wear it near your natural waist without crushing your balls. A low rise has less room for your business, so you sag it at least a bit.

And yes, I would wear my low-rise jeans way low, like pube level [ll] - that's what boxer briefs and shorts are for, no?
post #1454 of 21424
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And yes, I would wear my low-rise jeans way low, like pube level [ll] - that's what boxer briefs and shorts are for, no?
No. That is not what boxer briefs and shorts are for.
post #1455 of 21424
My understanding of this situation. Low-rise are meant to sit under hips, High-rise above the waist. You can sag both but if you sag low-rise jeans too much then they will end up showing more than a high-rise. For this reason I cant sag a low-rise jean too much.
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