Originally Posted by _C350_
thank you very much for the reply. I shouldnt have hot soaked it then. shoot!
You'll be fine, as long as you wear the jeans a lot and don't wash too often going forwards from here on out.
Originally Posted by notwithit
I know some people are all crazy about leaving the starch in for as long as possible, or even adding starch to accelerate fades, but there's more to fades than starch. I've given my Samurais three hour-long hot soaks, and they still fade fastest of any jeans I own.
Also, I think part of the reason so many people have crotch blowouts with Nudies is that Nudie overstarches their jeans and then tells people not to wash them.
In conclusion, YMMV, and CtK is wrong.
Samurais are a completely different animal from APCs. Because Samurais are made from unsanforized (shrink-to-fit) denim, you *have* to hot soak them before wearing them. If you don't, they will shrink a lot with the first wash, and your fades will move out of place from where they should be.
Samurai is also notorious for fading fast, that's just the nature of how that brand has their denim dyed. They would still fade with more contrast starched than unstarched though, that is pretty much universal for all denim.
Originally Posted by smoothness
I've never owned a pair of Levi jeans before, and i just picked up a pair of the selvedge matchsticks in 30x34. How much do they actually stretch in the waist without rigorous activity? They're a bit more than tight when sitting down (not ball crushing tight, but I'm conscious of the fit). I would have gone with the 31s, except for the fact that they were a little looser than "just right" in the store, and I was worried about them stretching even more over time, to the point where they would fall off. Any help would be appreciated. (I did a search, but all relevant posts that came up were from a year ago. Not sure if they're the same model.)
tldr: levi matchstick selvedge are pretty tight; not really sure if I should get a bigger size and hope they shrink after washing. which one, and thanks.
Sounds like you picked the right size. Denim will stretch, even if you are not particularly active in the jeans.
Originally Posted by ac_slater
I'm looking for something that fits like a NF skinny guy but with a tighter leg opening.
And for the record, the 6.85 opening on my sz 28 Weird Guys is still not tight enough. It also doesn't help that I don't like the rise on weird guys.
In other words, I need something like skinny guys, but with a leg opening that's even more tapered than weird guys?
Maybe look at the Dior 17 cm?
Originally Posted by mikecch
Starch can always be selectively applied to areas where you might like more fading and where stress-point abrasions won't be an issue (whiskering and honey-combing areas for example)...
I always hot-soak my denim before wear, even sanforised stuff - better for the fabric me thinks.
Personally, I agree with you. I care more about longevity than high contrast fades, so I usually soak even sanforized denim, unless it is presoaked from the manufacturer.