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post #13141 of 21424
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Originally Posted by uNiCoRnPriNcEsSx View Post
seriously, to all the newbs reading this thread.

skip the 3sixteens and APC's, and just spring for the premium japanese denim. at $180 (after tax for APC), you'd be hard pressed to shell out an extra $80 for the next tier. if you're local to a store, just visit them. In NY you have access to SE, BiG, and other stores. In CA, you got SE. If you aren't fortunate enough to live near a store, just email them and ask for their recs.

i know that most won't follow my observation, but those that do will thank me later. I had the chance to visit Self Edge in both SF and LA, and the denim quality from mid tier and premium doesn't even compare.
I might eventually do this sooner or later. The price is not an issue with me, albeit if it's over $500 then I might be a bit hesitant. I'm local to Self Edge, but at the very most..I can only wear jeans 2x a week as the other 5 days call for office attire. I bought a pair of Nudie because I like the fit. I'm also not the biggest denim junkie out there as well. What you guys accomplish in term of wear pattern in a year will take me a decade.
post #13142 of 21424
I'm getting confused about all the different Levis. I've heard the 501 STF are good for a cheap pair. Are they raw? Are the 514 rigids the same denim? Do they not come in a STF? How are they different from the matchsticks? These say they are selvedge so does that mean the STF are not? And where do the LVC fit into all of this?
post #13143 of 21424
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Originally Posted by jaychiz View Post
(crosspost)

what's should i be picking up for my 3rd (and hopefully final) pair of denim

i've got 2 pairs of N&F weird guys, dark and heavy for fall/winter, light and thin for spring/winter so i'm partial to the tapered fit but want something a little less gateway/entry level. from what i've seen sugar canes or samurai's seem to be common grails

wanting something with contrast stitching, interesting coloured stitch on indigo would be ideal, no idea what brand i should be looking into though, hopefully something stiff which wears and stacks well, raw selvedge unwashed

Somet? I was looking for a good tapered jean from some of the repro manufacturers, I ended up liking the Warehouse 660. The Samurai 710 is good. I think Skull makes a good tapered fit jean. If you have a small waist compared to leg size, Momotaro could work as well. I ended up buying two pairs of Dior 19cm and the cut really is fantastic. I've never found anything I liked from Sugar Cane, maybe the 1966? I don't like Sugar Cane denim also so it could just be that at work though.
post #13144 of 21424
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Originally Posted by bigbucky View Post
I'm getting confused about all the different Levis.

I've heard the 501 STF are good for a cheap pair. Are they raw?

Are the 514 rigids the same denim? Do they not come in a STF?

How are they different from the matchsticks? These say they are selvedge so does that mean the STF are not?

And where do the LVC fit into all of this?



I do believe that their rigids are raw and the STFs are also raw. I don't see why they don't ever put it on the website if they are raw denim.
post #13145 of 21424
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Originally Posted by phaseshift View Post
I really want a pair of Nudies, so I'm looking at both the SLim Jim and Grim Tim. I really like the fit on my 514s (tapered to 15" leg opening)

From what I read in this thread, the Grim Tims are slimmer than the 511s? and the 511s are slimmer than the 514s I think, but I'm not sure can someone clear this up.

I want the fit of the 514s, I've got some pretty muscular thighs and they fit just right, I had them tapered cause it looks way better that way.

So Slim Jims or Grim Tims?

and should I size down 1 or 2?

I am not familiar with Grim Tim, but Slim Jim fit more like 511, if not a bit tighter. I'm not sure what Nudie would fall into the category with 514, as those are a bit looser.
post #13146 of 21424
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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post
I am not familiar with Grim Tim, but Slim Jim fit more like 511, if not a bit tighter. I'm not sure what Nudie would fall into the category with 514, as those are a bit looser.

514s are a bit looser, the difference between the 511s is that its a slim fit all the way down and extra slim. The 514s are slim fits with a straight leg opening. The 511s I tried on at levi's had like 98% Cotton and 2% spandex not sure, I don't like that at all and they were pretty tight on my thighs.
post #13147 of 21424
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Originally Posted by phaseshift View Post
I really want a pair of Nudies, so I'm looking at both the SLim Jim and Grim Tim. I really like the fit on my 514s (tapered to 15" leg opening) From what I read in this thread, the Grim Tims are slimmer than the 511s? and the 511s are slimmer than the 514s I think, but I'm not sure can someone clear this up. I want the fit of the 514s, I've got some pretty muscular thighs and they fit just right, I had them tapered cause it looks way better that way. So Slim Jims or Grim Tims? and should I size down 1 or 2?
depends how muscular were talking here. the grim tims are a slimmer fit, slim jims are more of a modern straight leg. i prefer grim tims. click "view size chart" to see the measurements http://shop.nudiejeans.com/system/se...?id=884&rnum=6 http://shop.nudiejeans.com/system/se...?id=940&rnum=5
post #13148 of 21424
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Originally Posted by bigbucky View Post
I'm getting confused about all the different Levis.

I've heard the 501 STF are good for a cheap pair. Are they raw?

Are the 514 rigids the same denim? Do they not come in a STF?

How are they different from the matchsticks? These say they are selvedge so does that mean the STF are not?

And where do the LVC fit into all of this?

rigid = raw
STF = raw unsanforized (meaning they shrink a bit when you wash/soak them)

if it doesn't mention 'shrink to fit' or 'unsanforized' then its usually safe to assume they're sanforized (wont shrink much when washed/soaked)

i doubt the 514 rigid denim would be the same as the STF denim, because one is sanforized and one isnt.

those matchsticks, i dont know if they're raw or not because it doesn't say, but they dont look washed. they may be rinsed or something though, i'd email them if you really want to know.


as for LVC, i dont know much about LVC, but from what i've seen i think its levi's expensive line of raw denim for denim enthusiasts with repros of all their old cuts?
post #13149 of 21424
In addition to what max said; LVC is Levi's vintage clothing. They tend to be far higher quality denim, that Levi's introduced to keep their history of denim alive. Their cuts are exact reproductions of original levi's designs (ex 1947 501). They usually cost around $250, so they are far more expensive than standard levi's.
post #13150 of 21424
hi everyone, i wanted to know if the super skinny jeans used during the 80's by skinheads were altered 501 or stretch jeans like in these guttersnipe army pic
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-TrTt0Z5U2...1600/Cover.jpg
and what pair of jeans would you recommend to obtain this kind of look, i don't care if they are woman jeans.
and i wanted to know also how to bleach stretch jeans without making the denim rip or loose elasticity.
post #13151 of 21424
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Originally Posted by bigbucky View Post
I'm getting confused about all the different Levis.

I've heard the 501 STF are good for a cheap pair. Are they raw?

Are the 514 rigids the same denim? Do they not come in a STF?

How are they different from the matchsticks? These say they are selvedge so does that mean the STF are not?

And where do the LVC fit into all of this?


Personally, I'm a big proponent of LVC. This thread has a lot of what you would need to know. Pablo-T and Shorty Long could probably answer any excess questions you have after paroosing the thread.

Also, the Shrink-to-Fit 501s on the website are unsanfordized - shrinking "about" 2 inches in all directions when washed for the first time. The "rigid" 514s aren't the same denim - they've been rinsed and won't shrink as drastically (maybe .5 inches total with a wash). The normal 501s on their site AREN'T selvage denim, while the matchsticks should be. Occasionally they'll have a selvage 501 or 514 model (kind of goes in and out of rotation). The 514s would be sanfordized and the 501's aren't in those situations.

Hope this helps.
post #13152 of 21424
Does anyone live in New Jersey on here? I'm looking for a good tailor to get my jeans hemmed. Any advice on where to go?

I should be looking for someone who can chain or lockstitch, right? Is that something I can expect from the average tailor?

Sorry for all the questions, it's just my first time having anything altered.
post #13153 of 21424
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Originally Posted by Cheese1 View Post
Does anyone live in New Jersey on here? I'm looking for a good tailor to get my jeans hemmed. Any advice on where to go? I should be looking for someone who can chain or lockstitch, right? Is that something I can expect from the average tailor? Sorry for all the questions, it's just my first time having anything altered.
from what i understand, there are very few people out there with the correct machines to chainstitch. also you dont need to have a hem chainstitched, some people like it because it twists a bit, and when they fade, you get 'roping' along the hem. lots of repro jeans have chainstitched hems. personally i dont like the look of roping. the stitching on the hem gets virtually no stress put on it, so anyone capable on a sewing machine should be able to hem jeans no problem, just make sure they measure right so you dont end up with jeans too short.
post #13154 of 21424
Alright I have a question about the Premium Trucker Jacket (Rigid Selvedge) from Levis (currently on their site)... "Rigid" is a confusing term with Levis because I've heard it doesn't always mean raw/dry, so I'm wondering if this jacket is supposed to shrink like raw denim does after you soak/wash it? And whether sizing up would be necessary or not
post #13155 of 21424
I have a quick question about Tellason jeans. I'm thinking about getting a pair and I tried on a pair, sized down from my true waist, and although I was able to close all buttons, they were pretty tight. I'm told they can stretch up to 1.5 inches, but can anyone who owns a pair confirm? They are White Oak denim, and I know there are different types used at White Oak, but I suppose if someone who posses extensive knowledge of denim used at WO could comment on the stretch capacity/potential of their denim, I'd be thankful. H
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