I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here. - Page 738

Yep those are them. I'm dumb.

How does soaking affect the break in/fading process? I soaked a pair of jeans (cold) for about 3 hours and the water was brown when I pulled them out? Any idea on what that was and how that soak will affect fading moving forward? I don't feel like they really lost any indigo just the sheen. I've looked all over the internet, but there doesn't seem to be anything definitive. Thank you for the help.

Could someone recommend jeans similar in cut to Levis 514 for less than $100? I got a pair and despite about 10 other brans of jeans tried on, I can't find anything close to the slim, but not skinny cut.

Those are MiI, and at an inflated price, imo. Barneys had the MiJ for $350 last season. And the inseam should be longer than 36", more like 38"-40" iirc

Awesome, just what I was looking for!

How does the sizing of Diesel and Levi's compare? I got a pair of Diesel slim fits in the same size as a previous pair of jeans (30), but it's got a lot of room left in the front, enough stretch for me to put my fist in there...how far should I size down? Plan on using a code to order a pair from levi.com.

My question, simple: what (raw) jeans should I get next?

About a year ago I got my first raw denim, a pair of APC NS. I liked them a lot, but since general opinion seems to be that there is better out there, I was thinking I'd try something else. Since there's so much out there I've never seen in person, I thought I'd ask for suggestions.

My style is pretty simple: one part work-wear/americana, one part prep, maybe one part 'scene'. For jeans I'd like something similar to the APCs in terms of simplicity (plain raw indigo, lack of pocket stitching etc.) but maybe a bit more relaxed/masculine.

Based on reading things here I had considered LVC (maybe 1947?), RRL, and maybe KMW (although for me the huge pockets on the Rocker were a definite no.) Any comments about these, or further suggestions would be appreciated. (I'd like to keep it under $200, and of course it's always nice to snag something good on sale..)

If you did, say, seven minutes of research on this thread you'd find roughly 3983 people who asked the exact same question as you: APC NS blah blah blah blah want something better blah blah blah would like to keep it under $200 blah blah blah. If you took an additional three minutes, you'd come across the sub-$200 raw denim thread, which is basically hundreds of suggestions for jeans falling in that criteria. I was on the exact same boat as you and ended up with the LVC 47's. Buy TTS and wear them hard for a few months without soaking. And for god's sake, stop being lazy.

Okay, my bad? Like I said I've read a lot of this stuff but when there are thousands of posts in a number of threads to sort through it's confusing -- not necessarily a matter of being lazy. No need to condescend.

First, it's just plain unwise to not soak any jeans. So that takes care of any debate about fading.

However, in my direct experience, soaks do not impact indigo loss at all. Despite debate to the contrary. Only wear, abrasion and washing fade jeans. There's theories that you get greater creasing and higher contrast fades when you avoid soaking, but that's a huge and unresolved debate.


Try Uniqlo's MIJ (premium raw selvage) denim - only in the NYC store - they have a 'classic' and a 'slim' fit. Or there's GAP slim fit 1969 model. JCrew has some nice slim denim cuts these days, like the '484'.


I think you would also like the Studio D'Artisan 103, and the Momotaro 0701. Both are slim fits somewhat close to APC NS cut, but just so much better in so many ways. Size up one for Momotaro 0701, TTS for SDA. Both are over $200, but don't limit yourself with a random price-cap like that. All the best denim is over $200.

Thanks mlyngard for the helpful suggestions.

I'm still considering the LVC 1947 501s, but wondering what size I should get. Normally I'm between 31 and 32. For APC NS I went 29, and even after 8 months stretching with no washes it was a bit too tight for my taste (though wearable.) In Levi's 501 STF I'm a 31. So for the 1947s, would it be best to go for 32 or 33?

Thanks! Also picked up the H&M Raw Sliqs today, I'm a fan of that fit as well. They also had Raw Original cut denim for $10, pretty good deal if you don't mind the cut.

About to pull the trigger on a pair of Samurai 19 oz. S710xx. I wear a 30 in SExSC06s and Ande Whalls, but I'd consider myself to be a "true" 31. Should I go with a 31 or a 30?

Finally washed my Nudies Slim Jims after about 9 months of semi-regular wear: the fades and honeycombs are weak. Barely any loss of color, even after a wash in hot water.

If I keep wearing them hard, is there a chance to get better fades in a couple more months, or is my chance for that gone?

FYI for those looking for "sub-200" dollar jeans that are nearly unbeatable. Check out BKE/Buckle. Rock stars wear them and have signatures for a reason.

I'm pretty partial to the BKE Derek jeans myself and you can manage to get them for $50 online. Highest price in store for Buckle jeans is around $200 or so.

Just can't beat them for the price. Very comfortable and make you look like you know jeans.

They also have very good fades, pocket designs and such.