The problem with loafers is that there is so much variety and that it seems to turn on relatively small differences. It is hard to find the right pair. The Alden shell does look good (as usual), but also looks a little business casual. The bass weejun is a classic, but for college kids. I've never really liked the casual venetians. The higher end loafers can be too dressy, without really working with a suit. I still think there must be a right pair out there, but I haven't tracked it down yet.