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post #16 of 28
In Japan, wagyu is typically cooked longer than "normal" steak - usually up to a medium-well level. This is, quite simply, because of the marbling. When cooked well, the fat apparently dissolves and softens the surrounding meat. If you only aim to cook wagyu until it's rare or medium rare, you will miss out on the benefits of the wagyu (ie the melt-in-your-mouth tenderness) and you will just end up with a fatty lump of meat. The above is both what I've been told, and what I've seen of cooking techniques. Typically, when cooking a wagyu steak over a grill, the chef will sear the outside at a high heat, and then turn the heat down until it is quite low, and let the meat sit on the low heat for about 5 minutes. I must admit that I've only ever had a wagyu steak once. As has been noted above, eating a whole steak is unusual in Japan. It is far more common to either slice or dice the meat, and to then cook the slices or chunks and to serve them with a light dipping sauce.
post #17 of 28
I was wondering about that, how long it would take to melt all the fat. I thought maybe to sear and then let it bake for a bit on low heat.

K, let us know how you end up doing it. I'd like to get some of this stuff to try sometime.
post #18 of 28
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I was wondering about that, how long it would take to melt all the fat. I thought maybe to sear and then let it bake for a bit on low heat.

K, let us know how you end up doing it. I'd like to get some of this stuff to try sometime.

To melt all the fat-----
Sear like usual (high heat, 4 minutes to form crust, then turn it for 2 minutes) and then pop the pan into a preheated 350 degree oven for 4-7 minutes.
post #19 of 28
In my experience, cooking it medium rare was enough to make the fat unnoticeable as a solid when eating, it was just sublimely tender, juicy, and flavorful. In the interest of full disclosure, I was eating a special kind of cut: they take the "caps" off of bone-in Wagyu Ribeyes (the most tender part) which are about 3 oz. each, the byproduct of a common Ribeye cut for restaurants, fuse them together with a tasteless protein adhesive to make 6 oz. pieces about 1" thick. It's sort of something my friend's invented at his family's provision company.
post #20 of 28
The Wall Street Journal had a big weekend writeup about it around 6mo ago. Would be worth checking out. I have never cooked it before but I'd say you probably just handle like a regular ribeye. Get a cast-iron pan, put your oven to as hot as it will go, and salt both sides of the steak. Put in just a little oil into the cast iron pan and heat it over med-high. When the oil is wispy and about to smoke, put the steaks in for 3min. Flip them, put them in the oven for 3-4min and pull them out afterwards. The cast iron will be rocket-hot by the way. Don't put pepper on before you grill/panfry a steak because the pepper will burn and turn bitter. Much better to put it on afterwards!
post #21 of 28
I've never noticed any burnt taste of pepper. Isn't steak au poivre a pretty classic preparation?
post #22 of 28
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I've never noticed any burnt taste of pepper. Isn't steak au poivre a pretty classic preparation?

+1. Everytime I sear I pepper it before the searing, and I've never noticed a burnt taste.

I may not be entirely sure what steak au poivre, but isn't it basically steak covered in peppercorns and cooked that way to make the crust? That kinda goes against the pepper burning idea.
post #23 of 28
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I've never noticed any burnt taste of pepper. Isn't steak au poivre a pretty classic preparation?

+1

I put pepper on before grilling chicken, steak, and pork, and I've never noticed any negative effect. I think it may dull the flavor a bit, but I put on a healthy amount to begin with.
post #24 of 28
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I've never noticed any burnt taste of pepper. Isn't steak au poivre a pretty classic preparation?

I've never noticed either and i've gotten my pan over 500.
post #25 of 28
seared to a medium rare with salt, black pepper and a splash of premium soya sauce just before serving
post #26 of 28
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Cooked it tonight, turned out pretty well. Used my Demeyere stainless skillet (haven't bought my Staub yet) and got the temp up to 500. 30 seconds on each side, then 1.5 mins on each in the oven. Came out medium rare. It was thin so it cooked pretty quickly. Hit it with a bit of sea salt and peppercorns/ground pepper before cooking.
post #27 of 28
Steak au Poivre is often made like I said, but with the addition of crushed peppercorns in the pan sauce. Pepper is my favorite spice ever so I get a little nerdy about it, you'll have to excuse me. The other thing about adding pepper before cooking is that the heat you're working in will destroy a lot of the delicious pepper chemicals. I was imprecise when I said burning, I should have said that it mutes the flavor. You sometimes get actual burning on a grill, however. This is, incidentally, why pepper is added at the end of cooking to things, and why long cooking things like pot roast use peppercorns instead of ground pepper. But if the pepper is good for you when you put it on before cooking, go for it! Just hit it with some afterwards, too.
post #28 of 28
Maybe that's why my cracked peppercorns turn out better than using crappy pre-ground pepper. The pieces are bigger and probably less likely to burn. I can't imagine only using it at the end though, the pepper being crusted on infuses the meat with pepper flavor that you can't get unless you cook it that way.
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