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post #16 of 89
I think paying for exclusivity is useless if there isn't something about the item that is going to tell people that it is expensive/exclusive. Your $750 hermes jeans will probably look like any random $200 (or less) pair of raw jeans to the people you're trying to impress.

Besides, most of the japanese brands discussed here are sold in 1 (and at most 2) stores in the entire country. It's not like they are everywhere :P

And 45rpm only sells their products in their own stores.
post #17 of 89
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Originally Posted by PG2G View Post
I think paying for exclusivity is useless if there isn't something about the item that is going to tell people that it is expensive/exclusive. Your $750 hermes jeans will probably look like any random $200 (or less) pair of raw jeans to the people you're trying to impress.

Besides, most of the japanese brands discussed here are sold in 1 (and at most 2) stores in the entire country. It's not like they are everywhere :P

And 45rpm only sells their products in their own stores.

These are almost a bargain at $762 (¥81,900) -- still more expensive than the Hermès yet undoubtedly a much finer product.





http://www.japanblue.co.jp/denimhouse/item/48.html

IIRC PG2G you own a pair of $400 jeans? How different are they from your $200 jeans? Are they your favorite pair? Or are they just part of your rotation and you have others that were cheaper that you actually prefer? And what's next after $400 jeans -- these Japan Blue jeans? Or those incredibly exclusive jeans made in small shops in Okayama and throughout Japan where the artisans only make a few pairs each month and they interview you first to decide if you're worthy?
post #18 of 89
My most expensive jeans are the Pure Blue Japan AI-001. They was nothing available like them at the time (now there was the limited edition KMW 1950 AWA, Oni Shoai, Stronghold, etc...). Natural Indigo, extremely slubby, ~19oz denim. They ran me about $500. I don't wear them too much because the inseam is a bit shorter than I would like (though, its manageable), and they are dyed in a way that makes them hard as hell to fade :P So there isn't really as much motivation.

http://blueingreensoho.com/site/inde...mart&Itemid=28

Back then, I was considering these as a next step: http://blueingreensoho.com/site/inde...mart&Itemid=28

This is a good option if you want something very unique and slubby (like my AI-001):
http://blueingreensoho.com/site/inde...mart&Itemid=28

Personally though, I decided that I was going to concentrate more on the fit and less on getting the best thing out there. Next for me? I'm not sure... I have a strict 36" inseam policy now, and am hesitant to buy anything without trying it on. I'm looking towards Dior though, depending on how they fit.
post #19 of 89
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Originally Posted by PG2G View Post
Personally though, I decided that I was going to concentrate more on the fit and less on getting the best thing out there.

This is excellent advice! I guess it's the same with all clothes -- you know how a guy in a $200 suit that's tailored perfectly to fit his body perfectly will look much better than the guy in a $4,500 Kiton that doesn't fit him properly? So I think I'll follow your lead and concentrate more on fit rather than exclusivity.

Ultimately though, for me -- the Holy Grail of jeans is the Japan Blue G003-A or the Japan Blue G001-T. But I'll have to try them on in Japan first to make sure they fit perfectly!
post #20 of 89
if you're into denim from super luxe brands, i suggest Bottega Veneta black raw denim...the fit is as modern as i've seen from any brand in that similar stratosphere of pricing, and the back pocket embroidery looks pretty neat (definitely not of the tacky kind), but you wouldn't have been able to tell it was BV. Best combo of street + luxe i've seen, even though i wouldn't shell out that much for jeans...
post #21 of 89
I saw a pretty sick looking broken twill louis vuitton selvage jacket on a denim blog. I'm fairly certain there's some good denim to be found in the topshelf luxury brand lines, but the markup should make any serious buyer question the reason behind the purchase.
post #22 of 89
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Originally Posted by Souper View Post
I saw a pretty sick looking broken twill louis vuitton selvage jacket on a denim blog. I'm fairly certain there's some good denim to be found in the topshelf luxury brand lines, but the markup should make any serious buyer question the reason behind the purchase.
Louis Vuitton also has a very nice raw denim jean and iirc is selvage. I'm not sure on the price though.
post #23 of 89
never seen selvedge raw denim from LV...but that broken twill jacket mentioned above was nice. LV jeans usually in the $400-500 range...they're not bad but i don't like the back pocket logo-ing, too loud for my tastes.
post #24 of 89
I think there is a huge difference from a $200-$300.00 jean to a $400+ jean.
What I want to point out is KNOW what you are paying for.
What you like is what you like and you shouldnt sway from personal style just don't get suckered into buying something because of the label.
Hermes, LV, are not always the best even though they should be considering what they stand for in the luxury market.
Your niche japanese brands and other top shelf denim brands DO focus on the finer things hence in my opinion producing a better product.
We can talk about this at the party.
post #25 of 89
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Originally Posted by Denimbar View Post
OK OK OK. If you must have them because they are Hermes then do so. I wouldnt pay that much for ANY JEAN and its not because I get a deal.
You need to find out some very important things.

first and foremost are they 100% natural indigo??
Second are they hand made?
Third what kind of fabric are they using?
We already know they were ade in France so for that they should owe you money...lol
If all those questions come to your approval then get them if not spend your money on some KMW , 45rpm, or Guilded AGE ( natural indigo and handwashed)
Those are my thoughts.
It's cool to buy into luxury brands my business is based upon that but know what you are buying so you dont look like a sucker.

I say go with kmw's best bang for your buck.
post #26 of 89
I'm wondering if there isn't a quality difference that comes from making just one product. The Japanese denim brands, seem, and I may be speaking out of ignorance here, to only make jeans. They know jeans. They know what customers want, they know how to construct them and how to handle the materials. They've been doing it for awhile. On the other hand, if brands like Hermes and LV are dipping into denim to expand their brand instead of make it their brand, are they going to track down the best methods and materials? Will they produce a product that is just as good, or better, than the ones produced by companies that only make jeans? I'm curious about that.
post #27 of 89
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Originally Posted by amerikajinda View Post
Ok if we're going for exclusivity, here are some jeans that cost $1,661 (¥178,500) which is more than twice as expensive as the Hermès, but a much better value because you're not paying for BNI (Brand Name Inflation):







http://www.japanblue.co.jp/denimhouse/item/50.html

That's a silly price for a pair of jeans. Maddness!
post #28 of 89
WTF? That's a lot of bread for a pair of jeans that maybe two or three internet nerds will give you props for. There's got to be a thousand more useful applications for that money, get real. $250, 300 bucks for a pair of premium selvage jeans, fine. $750? Give me a break
post #29 of 89
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Originally Posted by PG2G View Post
This is a good option if you want something very unique and slubby (like my AI-001):
http://blueingreensoho.com/site/inde...mart&Itemid=28

Personally though, I decided that I was going to concentrate more on the fit and less on getting the best thing out there. Next for me? I'm not sure... I have a strict 36" inseam policy now, and am hesitant to buy anything without trying it on. I'm looking towards Dior though, depending on how they fit.

the question is, considering now you have the Shoai option now and say you dont own the AI, which one would you prefer?

the shoai having a longer inseam but alot looser in fit or the AI, 80 dollars cheaper but with a different slub, and slimmer but shorter inseam?





and amerika, dont get those hermes jeans. you can get 3 pairs of japanese jeans : perhaps samurai, pure blue, and somet for that one .
post #30 of 89
Mark,
Those jeans you posted look like 80's blue tsubi denim, haha. Don't buy these Hermes man. In all honesty, I think you're excited because you found something considerably different from that brand and something we never thought would be the case. It's like the feeling when you go to a thrift shop and find a pair of selvage denim. It's exciting and I think that's what you're going through. If you want something exclusive and at the same time a great product, stick to the Japanese man. It's just that much cooler. No explanation needed.
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