Daniel Craig: Going retro 60's style Bond - Page 3

the angle maybe?

In case you're interested.. "Quantum of Solace" from timezone. ...from the third story in "For Your Eyes Only" This story has no spies, no guns, no supervillains, no global conspiracies, and yet it might be one of the most significant pieces Ian Fleming ever wrote about James Bond. Bond is sitting on a sofa, after a dinner party, talking with the Colonial Governor. After Bond (who despises small talk) makes a comment about marrying a stewardess, the Governor launches into a story of one of his old coworkers, and it is this tale, told in the older man's voice, that comprises the bulk of the short story. In brief, it is the story of a young Diplomatic Service man who marries a flight attendant. When she becomes disillusioned with her less-than-flashy life and her uxorious husband, she has a blatant affair. It ruins her husband, who is eventually transferred to Washington for six months. When he returns, he ruthlessly crushes her spirit much as she did his -- but privately, over the course of a year. In the end he leaves her financially and emotionally ruined, but pays the price of the coarsening of his soul. In the end, she hits bottom and slowly recovers, even finding happiness. The crux of the story is the emotional phenomenon the Governor calls the Quantum of Solace, the smallest unit of human compassion that two people can have. As long as that compassion exists, people can survive, but when it is gone, when your partner no longer cares about your essential humanity, the relationship is over. At the end of the story Bond is depressed, and suddenly finds his life of adventure to be fundamentally boring and unfulfilling compared to the real human drama the Governor has told him about. The unwritten part of the story, the essential truth never spelled out in so many words but clear to anyone who has spent the last week reading the original Bond books is this -- No one in the world has a Quantum of Solace for James Bond. He is alone. The people closest to him are M., who, in the end treats him like a fine hunting dog, and his elderly housekeeper May, who, as much as she may fuss and fret about his health, will eventually retire and be done with him. From this point on in the series, Bond is crumbling, a man sliding down the slope of his career, a human being rather than the automaton Fleming originally set out to create.

Really? Is that really what it's about? Because I was really hoping for a lot of explosions.

Nonetheless, makes me want to read the book.

O and also, I like the roped shoulder and don't see anything wrong with the publicity photos. If anything, it looks a hell of a lot better than that soft grey suit that was discussed at the end of the Casino Royale thread.

Sounds like a GREAT Bond movie

+1 on digging the shoulders.

The 2008 Fall/Winter Bottega Veneta makes a feature of them. More examples if you look back through previous BV collections.

That looks like a uniform and not a person. I know designers need to play around with this stuff to keep selling clothing, but that shoulder, or Bond's, is just not for me.

The above Bond description sounds to me like a joke (much like the above "pagoda" shoulders) but I'm sick of explosions, even in action movies. That's one reason I like the Bourne shows.

bwahaahaa

true, if he stood there too long i think bird would begin to roost there!

The next movie is The Fortress of Solitude

I like the shoulders, probably have something similar done on the next suit I have made.

I think this forum is heavily biased against anything other than Italian clothing. Soft shoulders may look good on old men but seeing as I am not 40 I think pagoda shoulders look just fine.

Not liking the unfortunate shoulders of the suit in the OP has nothing to do with being pro-Italian or pro-English... They're just ugly and a bit caricatural (at least on that picture)

Sometimes people here have a very romanticized view of what an "Italian" or "English" cut/shoulder is. Have a look at the English tailors. Even if more structured and more military influenced, they generally don't cut their coats with such accentuated roping or freaky pagodas...

Here are some examples. Even if they're not necessarily my taste, at least they're not embarrassing. Strong shoulders, yes. Pointy, no.

Kilgour (as mentioned above in this thread):




Huntsman



Anderson & Sheppard



Thomas Mahon



Dege



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Of course, if you walk into Kilgour and ask them to cut you a suit with an extreme pagoda like the OP's (or whoopee's), I'm sure they'll do it for you and take your cash. But that's clearly not how they like to portray their style.

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