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Bodum Granos espresso maker

post #1 of 10
1/14/08 at 9:27pm
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Anyone have one/used one/seen one? How is the quality of the product?

Worth the $$ Any others that look solid and make a great shot?
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post #2 of 10
1/15/08 at 12:50am
Which grinder were you planing on getting with the machine?
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post #3 of 10
1/15/08 at 12:18pm
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http://www.bodumusa.com/shop/line.as...WT5Q4HN8C27RM4

Which do you recommend?
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post #4 of 10
1/15/08 at 1:16pm
The spinning blade type grinder you linked to will not work well for espresso. You will need to buy a good burr type grinder.

Here is a good article that covers all the basics at different price points: How to buy an Espreso Machine
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post #5 of 10
1/15/08 at 1:19pm
After thorough readings of Coffeegeek and burning out two blade grinders, I found this was rated as one of the better grinders under $100: http://www.koffeeklatsch.com/product...er_(ABS)_.html I don't know if it is precise enough for espresso; I use it with a press.
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post #6 of 10
1/15/08 at 1:40pm
I have the Capresso burr grinder TheHoff linked to. It seems to do a decent job, but it's a pain in the ass to clean. It's almost impossible to get all the old grounds out of the machine w/ each use. Enough so that I would recommend spending more and getting a better one. I use it w/ the Francis X3, which I do like.
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post #7 of 10
1/15/08 at 2:11pm
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Thanks for links above. I would think that the grinder I get should be dependent on the machine (auto, etc.) and not the other way around.

Is there a particular reason everyone jumped to grinder types/particulars, before addressing the espresso machine?
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post #8 of 10
1/15/08 at 2:33pm
I only use a press at home. I don't have much counter space for a machine and I live down the street from some fine shops where I get my fix.
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post #9 of 10
1/15/08 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by style from the heartland View Post
Thanks for links above. I would think that the grinder I get should be dependent on the machine (auto, etc.) and not the other way around.

Is there a particular reason everyone jumped to grinder types/particulars, before addressing the espresso machine?

You can make a decent espresso with a $200 machine and $300 grinder.
You can not make a decent espresso with a $2000 machine and a cheap whirly blade grinder or using preground coffee.
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post #10 of 10
1/16/08 at 2:29pm
I agree with Dmax, the grinder is more important than the espresso machine. The people of coffeegeek and home-barista will always recommend focusing on the grinder first. If you don't have tons of money, spend what you have on a very good grinder and a press pot, then, later save up and get an espresso machine. Grinders may not be a sexy as espresso machines, but there's no point in getting a good espresso machine if you don't have an equivalent grinder.

That being said, if you don't mind going the used route, excellent stuff can be picked up cheap. I got a Pasquini moka grinder for $75 and an Elektra Microcasa a Leva for $275, both from Craigslist (but different locals).
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