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Scent: Future of the Different Company

post #1 of 14
1/14/08 at 8:37pm
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For the scentaholics who live here:

What is your view of The Different Company in general? Also, what are your expectations for their survival and future now that JC Ellena has joined Hermes in a formal capacity? Can the company survive without him? Do you expect it to have a future? One of the reasons I ask is because I am enamored with the build quality of their 48-hour and Long Trip dispensers but I wondered why anyone would lock themselves into a form-factor developed by a company that may not survive.

What say you?
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post #2 of 14
1/15/08 at 11:38am
J-C Ellena's departure certainly doesn't help things, but Celine Ellena (his daughter) might have the wherewithal to keep the line rolling until she hits her stride if she hasn't already.
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post #3 of 14
1/15/08 at 9:13pm
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I know she has released a scent or two for the line on her own. What do you think of them and how have they been received generally (if you know)?
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post #4 of 14
1/21/08 at 5:40pm
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Bump, in case anyone knows.
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post #5 of 14
1/21/08 at 6:01pm
Hmmm, did some checking since TDC is generally off my radar. Long story short: Celine Ellena's first two for TDC are liked and admired, but not loved. Where Jean Claude's scents have inspired rapture from some (TdH, for instance), Celine's first two for TDC (a Jasmine and a Vetiver) are not generally considered bottle-worthy. Kind words, but still they have hollowness that comes from an arm's length of distance.

I'd hesitate to think she's reached the limit of her talent. Whether this is a case of suffering by comparison to her father, or just her not yet finding her stride is a tough call. JC's departure may be a good thing if she can get out from under his shadow.

TDC should be able to continue selling JCE's scents for a while. I think there are two other perfumers in-house, and between the three of them they should be able to put out some compelling scents. If they can't hit a few home runs on their own in the next 2-3 years, they'll probably want to find some new talent if they want to stay relevant.
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post #6 of 14
1/21/08 at 6:05pm
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TY

I wish the company well and have been enjoying Rose Poivree.
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post #7 of 14
1/21/08 at 6:12pm
Did she do Sel de Vetiver? I think that's a very nice scent. I also think JC Elena has missed on quite a few scents himself. Still, there are way too many new and existing niche fragrance houses. I wouldn't be surprised to see several of them disappear over the next few years.
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post #8 of 14
1/21/08 at 6:22pm
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TY

I wish the company well and have been enjoying Rose Poivree.

How does Rose Poivree smell? I've limited experience with Rose scents (Ungaro III being chief among them), but pepper in its many forms makes me take notice.
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post #9 of 14
1/21/08 at 7:26pm
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Caveat: I don't speak your language. The initial sense is clearly of roses. After that it becomes something almost entirely different - solid as opposed to light and dense as opposed to bright. But not floral. I am sorry that I can't help more, but I don't have the vocabulary for this. As an example, other than the bit about roses, I could have written the same thing about Labo Vetiver 46, though they smell nothing alike. I do like both, though there is something more sophisticated and aggressive (I don't mean stronger) about the Rose Poivree. I wear the Veitiver 46 more often.
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post #10 of 14
1/21/08 at 7:40pm
Oh, it's one of those scents. Ungaro III is kind of like that in being a tightly-wound mass of scent. Occasionally I can discern notes if I'm lucky, but often enough I'm grasping for something to describe it.
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post #11 of 14
1/21/08 at 7:47pm
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Oh, it's one of those scents. Ungaro III is kind of like that in being a tightly-wound mass of scent. Occasionally I can discern notes if I'm lucky, but often enough I'm grasping for something to describe it.
Don't assume that because I am grasping to describe it, you would too. I simply don't have the experience speaking about scent and have not developed the vocabulary. You might have no trouble describing it to someone used to discussing scents.
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post #12 of 14
1/21/08 at 8:15pm
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Don't assume that because I am grasping to describe it, you would too. I simply don't have the experience speaking about scent and have not developed the vocabulary. You might have no trouble describing it to someone used to discussing scents.

You could simply send your bottle to me and I'll tell you how it smells.
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post #13 of 14
1/22/08 at 1:17am
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You could simply send your bottle to me and I'll tell you how it smells.

What good will that be. I won't understand you.
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post #14 of 14
1/22/08 at 12:08pm
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What good will that be. I won't understand you.

It was worth a shot...

Reading Luca Turin's (former) blog and reviews made a difference in how I experience scents. Some are still beyond my reach to describe other than the memories or images they evoke. Other times I read a review and compare it to my own memories or perceptions, and I can then put names to what I'm noticing.

I chatted with someone whose mother did this sort of thing, and her key was exemplars - tons of reference scents for comparison.

And sometimes you just come across a scent in nature. I was out running one morning when storm clouds were gathering, and I swear I smelled New West. Thing is - no one wears it except me these days (discontinued, I think). It was the storm clouds and a neighbor's rosemary bush, and I thought - there it is. Weird.
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