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post #61 of 76
Somalians are crazy. They are all over my city. Last year one slit the throats of these 17 year old twin brothers.
post #62 of 76
Last summer my girlfriend and I went to S Africa for roughly two weeks. We flew into Johannesburg, renting a car and driving to Kruger, which was simply awesome. I felt like a kid in Disneyworld for the first time. From there, we drove the garden route to cape town, spending the night in four towns. We drove roughly 2200 miles though some very rural areas and experienced no trouble whatsoever.
post #63 of 76
Any thoughts on what camera to bring? I have a Canon ELPH P&S that has served me well on past overseas trips, but I think I may want to upgrade to a better camera for this trip. I was initially looking at DSLRs, but now I'm leaning toward a superzoom -- cheaper, lighter, and without the hassle of bringing/changing lenses. How about binoculars? A must bring?
post #64 of 76
i'm not a big camera guy-i drove while my girlfriend shot. I would make sure you're covered in the zoom dept. I purchased binoculars for the trip and glad i did-very useful when you stumble upon something interesting. August, btw, is considered the best time to go-less foliage makes for easier viewing.
post #65 of 76
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Any thoughts on what camera to bring? I have a Canon ELPH P&S that has served me well on past overseas trips, but I think I may want to upgrade to a better camera for this trip. I was initially looking at DSLRs, but now I'm leaning toward a superzoom -- cheaper, lighter, and without the hassle of bringing/changing lenses. How about binoculars? A must bring?

People tend to favour something that zooms a lot, binoculars are nice if you don't have a camera in your hands otherwise who cares. Don't spend your whole trip looking through the lense of a camera, take a few pics but experience the place a lot.
post #66 of 76
In my experience, 90% of the time, you'll just be watching what's going on but the other 10% you'll need a strong zoom (or binos) to see some distant scenes/animals. Doesn't really make a difference to me if you're looking at it through a viewfinder or binoculars - but you wouldn't want to miss some of these things.
post #67 of 76
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It does strike me that a lot of the guys I have known who have hunted or otherwise spent time in Africa have died young.
A lot of people have asked me if I would like to go to Africa. I have replied, "Not particularly." Mostly, this is because I simply hate flying. The idea of flying to anyplace in Africa is positively daunting. I am not afraid of flying. I just really dislike the discomfort (in no small measure due to my size) and general indignity of the whole business.
And then when I get to Africa, what do I do? Shoot a kudu, have its head mounted so that it can look down from the wall on me in spiral-horned. glassy-eyed reproach for the rest of my days, or what? When I was young, I thought it would be cool to live in baronial splendor and have a capacious trophy room adorned with triumphs of the chase from around the world. Well, I don't live in baronial splendor, and I can only imagine the reaction of my wife if I began festooning the walls with the heads of kudu, gemsbok, roan, eland and such. Besides, the older I get, the less appealing the recreational killing of animals becomes to me.

You don't HAVE to kill stuff. You can just watch the animals.
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Any thoughts on what camera to bring? I have a Canon ELPH P&S that has served me well on past overseas trips, but I think I may want to upgrade to a better camera for this trip. I was initially looking at DSLRs, but now I'm leaning toward a superzoom -- cheaper, lighter, and without the hassle of bringing/changing lenses. How about binoculars? A must bring?

A fast 200mm zoom is absolute minimum imo, preferably with a 1.4x teleconverter to get a bit closer. For wildlife, photographers usually recommend 300mm or more, but those lenses are incredibly expensive. First figure out what system you're going to go with (canon/nikon, full frame or not, etc) and if you're really into photography and want good close-ups, you can probably find a place to rent a lens in the country, assuming you're not going to shell out 5-10k for a long enough zoom. I'd go with a long lens and not bother with binoculars. You can only carry so much stuff.

You probably want something with good image stabilization too since you may be shooting from a 4x4. The higher end lenses have it in the canon/nikon world. Olympus does it in-body.
post #68 of 76
how much is it to go big game hunting in africa?
post #69 of 76
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how much is it to go big game hunting in africa?

Probably $2000 to get here and back, about $2000-$5000 for hotels and things. Then if you want to shoot a lion probably about $100,000
post #70 of 76
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You don't HAVE to kill stuff. You can just watch the animals.

A fast 200mm zoom is absolute minimum imo, preferably with a 1.4x teleconverter to get a bit closer. For wildlife, photographers usually recommend 300mm or more, but those lenses are incredibly expensive. First figure out what system you're going to go with (canon/nikon, full frame or not, etc) and if you're really into photography and want good close-ups, you can probably find a place to rent a lens in the country, assuming you're not going to shell out 5-10k for a long enough zoom. I'd go with a long lens and not bother with binoculars. You can only carry so much stuff.
You probably want something with good image stabilization too since you may be shooting from a 4x4. The higher end lenses have it in the canon/nikon world. Olympus does it in-body.

Yeah I agree with you GQ - shoot the animals with a big bore camera...
post #71 of 76
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Probably $2000 to get here and back, about $2000-$5000 for hotels and things. Then if you want to shoot a lion probably about $100,000

100k? Is that for a permit or something? I've never had any interest in shooting anything (with a gun).
post #72 of 76
IIRC from what our guides were telling us, the reserves raise a lot of the money needed to run and maintain the parks with those very high hunting prices.
post #73 of 76
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100k? Is that for a permit or something? I've never had any interest in shooting anything (with a gun).


Yes that would be the kinda price for a Lion, lesser animals command lesser fees though.

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IIRC from what our guides were telling us, the reserves raise a lot of the money needed to run and maintain the parks with those very high hunting prices.

Sorry GDL it does not work like that unfortunately, ....

The game park's do not ever allow commercial hunting, it is illegal. The only purpose of these game reserves is to preserve the wildlife. Culling is possible at times, but only done by game rangers, and as part of their jobs, not for profit. However there is a lot of illegal theft, bribery, corruption, and poaching going on where the animals are stolen and killed for meat or aphrodisiacs, like rhino horn. Crocodile skin for belts and shoes and handbags.

The only places that are legally allowed to supply private game hunting, are the private game farms. Here they put the animal concerned in a fenced off area so it cannot run too far, sedate it to an extent. This provides and almost perfect setting for the typical overweight american big game hunter to sit in relative comfort in a jeep/landrover and kill a sedated animal at fairly close range, because they normally cannot aim very well, and also, they cannot hold a rifle up to aim and shoot for very long because their un-exercised ams begin shaking under the weight of the rifle and it just would not do to have the hunter break a sweat on his brow, have pulled arm muscles, or (god forbid) have to run after the animal after paying $100,000 for the privilege. It has to by nature be quick clean professional and efficient.

Oh, and yes, 100k is for the permit or something. More something than permit i think, something for bribery and corruption. But yes, they call it a permit, it just sounds better. Permit, I think I like that word. It is corruption money and buys another couple of mercedes benz. I mean you have never found anything that is not corrupt in africa have you?

Fascinating stuff, Africa.... nod[1].gif
post #74 of 76
Well, when we were in the Selous in Tanzania, our lodge was close to a game reserve and the guides explained that a portion of the reserve was fenced off for hunting and that it was highly controlled as to which animals are available to hunt and when, and that the proceeds were used to fund the non-hunting part of the reserve. I don't know if that gaming reserve was private but it didn't sound like it. Maybe there are private hunting operators / concessions for hunting and the point is that what they pay for concessions helps fund the overall reserve? Not sure exactly.
post #75 of 76
Sorry I should have said i was talking about South Africa, which is a lot more formalized than Tanzania which is in deepest darkest Africa.
But i would bet my bottom dollar that it does not cost that much there, it is not as comfortable / professional, and that it is totally corrupt.

Show me da money!!

hehe, Oh and US Dollars only..nod[1].gif
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