you just beat me to it Arvi. It has been a very long time since someone could divide clothing styles along national lines. There used to be the American suit, the British suit, and the Italian suit. These were easily distinguishable by their unique fit and style characteristics, and that was that. That was a very very long time ago. These days you have American companies making Italian suits, and vice versa. British companies with Italian influence, etc. Not only that, the style cues that separated the national identities can all be found on the same suit at once. What I think you are referring to, and please correct me if I am wrong, is the more unique and offbeat styles that generally come out of Italy. The silly shoes, the funky ties, the now much maligned Armani cut of the 80s. Because alot of people associate those things with Italy, it has become a bit of a stigma. If you think about it, however, the same holds true in the rest of the world. For every BB Alden shoe that you probably love, there are 10 atrocious Kenneth Cole/et al. square toed monstrocities that you are ignoring. For every well dressed conservative Brit, picture some of the rather eccentric styles that emerged from that country in the 60s and 70s. Every country has both good and bad looks. For some reason you are focusing on the good looks of the Americans and the Brits, yet only focusing on the odd and ugly looks thats sometime malign the Italians. The truth of it is Italy has the majority of the best tailors, designers, etc. in the entire world as far as the clothing business goes. Italian companies pride themselves on innovation, on creativity, and because of that have some of the most beautifully styled clothes, but unfortunately some of the ugliest. to simply say you dont like Italian styled clothes is too much of a generalization. What you should say is you dont like ugly Italian clothes, and neither do I. You wouldnt catch me in a pair of those silly Italian shoes with the huge welt running around it like a rain gutter if they were given to me.