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post #496 of 724
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Silly rabbit, you don't have to answer the people's questions to win the debate!

you are better off dodging some questions and evading in a political debate, we are not talking about science here or nuanced political chat with your buddy but about manipulating random tv viewer who doesn't give 1/10 of the fuck that you or me do about politics, so in that context he won, in context of what they actually said they were both fucking horrendous. But as far as this conversation here goes, I'm talking about that first context.
post #497 of 724
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I call bullshit.

Right wing premiere in BC? Who you trying to kid? wink.gif

Also, didn't Clark use pretty much the same defense as Clinton? Just a guideline misunderstanding with maybe a little tech issue?

Absolutely- supporting the original claim that politicians more-often-than-not don't really have to answer for their actions.
post #498 of 724
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

correlation doesn't mean causation mr.scientist

Somebody could say it was result of the leaked tape, rather than his debate performance

You really couldn't say that considering the tape wasn't leaked for more than a week after the polls started sliding.
post #499 of 724
ok it's clear now

suited talked about both 1st and 2nd and you commented and it appears your comment was about 1st debate not 2nd

yes i agree he lost that first debate
post #500 of 724
Oh and is Trump still on Bolivian marching powder?
post #501 of 724
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

This has been discussed ad nauseum. Hillary's server was highly vulnerable for extended periods of time. If it had been compromised, and it probably was, a sophisticated attacker would not leave evidence.

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/hillary-clintons-email-was-probably-hacked-experts-say.html

I like how the article you cite says that her server was no worse than using the state department server which was verifiably hacked by the russians...
post #502 of 724
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I like how the article you cite says that her server was no worse than using the state department server which was verifiably hacked by the russians...

Yeah, let's give Hillary credit for making her server so insecure that no one would know if it was hacked. Good politics at least.
post #503 of 724
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Yeah, let's give Hillary credit for making her server so insecure that no one would know if it was hacked. Good politics at least.

But this one goes to 11!!!!!>!.
post #504 of 724
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Did someone say facts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/10/fact-checking-the-second-clinton-trump-presidential-debate/

lol at all of the quotes from trump defending Bill's womanizing...



i'm glad we have those fact checkers that are lucky to have been born without bias like this one


or this emabarassment http://www.vox.com/2016/9/26/13067972/how-old-is-isis - yes thank we know Hillary is older than ISIS



having said that i'd take them with the grain of salt, but yes i agree he makes a lot more bizarre and inaccurate statements and exaggerates a lot, still im just as much uneasy about stuff Hillary doesn't say
post #505 of 724
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post




or this emabarassment http://www.vox.com/2016/9/26/13067972/how-old-is-isis - yes thank we know Hillary is older than ISIS


But Trump's comments suggest he doesn't, which is the point.
Or is your position that the stuff he says is so self-evidently and deliberately false that there's no point in fact-checking?
post #506 of 724
I know if you repeat the same lies enough times, there are people who will believe they are true...but it looks like they are outweighed by a whole bunch of people who will just say "screw your lying ass" instead.
post #507 of 724
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I know if you repeat the same lies enough times, there are people who will believe they are true...but it looks like they are outweighed by a whole bunch of people who will just say "screw your lying ass" instead.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, Mr. Scientist! So there!
post #508 of 724
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I know if you repeat the same lies enough times, there are people who will believe they are true...but it looks like they are outweighed by a whole bunch of people who will just say "screw your lying ass" instead.


Wow. I had called it 60/40 for Hills some time ago, for a Dukakis type debacle (think he only carried nine or ten states), but this looks to be even worse.
post #509 of 724
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

But Trump's comments suggest he doesn't, which is the point.
Or is your position that the stuff he says is so self-evidently and deliberately false that there's no point in fact-checking?

it was mentioned a few times at least about how ISIS started in the vacuum left by USA in Iraq, and everyone knows Hillary is old as hell so what was exactly purpose of that fact check? Do you suppose that are people who do not recognize this as a figure of speech but an honest statement about how old is isis and how long Hillary is fighting it (from about 1965 going by that metric) ?
post #510 of 724
I think that's odds rather than vote ratios.
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