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post #136 of 724
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i didnt get the whole "she's hiding 33000 emails" vs "she deleted all her emails not given to FBI". how are you supposed to release deleted emails

Trump should ask his 10 year old son. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It's unbelievable.
post #137 of 724
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So here's an interesting line from Clinton, "...who has said women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men." So is her position women deserve equal pay for an inferior job?

I caught that live. Seemed like a strange thing to disagree with... but maybe that's where we're headed.
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Saying you will trade them for the deleted emails is just stupidity at this point. Does he know what deleted means?

Not defending Trump... but if there's anything important in those emails (and "important" here could be construed as "incriminating to Hillary" but "requisite for her foundation"), there's probably a backup somewhere.
post #138 of 724
What the hell is that at 1:19:29 (the link should open it at the correct time stamp)? Politics aside, is that not the strangest body language you've ever seen on a debate stage? She looked like a video game character that started glitching as she pretended to be somewhat affable.
https://youtu.be/ZEHPrYUcoi0?t=4768


post #139 of 724
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

What the hell is that at 1:19:29 (the link should open it at the correct time stamp)? Politics aside, is that not the strangest body language you've ever seen on a debate stage?

https://youtu.be/ZEHPrYUcoi0?t=4768



You guys are really grasping at straws. Perhaps you didn't look at the left side of the screen the entire night?
post #140 of 724
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Originally Posted by origenesprit View Post

You guys are really grasping at straws. Perhaps you didn't look at the left side of the screen the entire night?

Link me a time stamp that shows Trump displaying body language that is remotely as weird as what she did at 1:19:29.
post #141 of 724
You're doing some really fucking weird micro-analysis of this. Body language? Who gives a shit. Trump was a scowling jack o' lantern for 90 out of 90 minutes and you find five seconds of Clinton laughing to point out?


How about the fact that Trump just blatantly made up an anecdote about Clinton as some kind of defense for the "temperament" question? It was such a bizarre statement, it's really no wonder Clinton responded strangely.



On a less serious note, I was laughing at all of Trump's sniffling and slamming back water. It's meaningless but funny in context of the conspiracies about Clinton coughing and his jabs at Rubio.
post #142 of 724
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Originally Posted by sonick View Post

Trump should ask his 10 year old son. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It's unbelievable.

That exchange is hilarious in text. Trump makes absolutely no sense at all. It's just complete word salad, he's stringing together random phrases with no connection at all.



I'm really wondering why Trump reflexively defends Russia. Like...why? What's the upside to Trump to claiming Russia wasn't behind the hack?
post #143 of 724
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

That exchange is hilarious in text. Trump makes absolutely no sense at all. It's just complete word salad, he's stringing together random phrases with no connection at all.



I'm really wondering why Trump reflexively defends Russia. Like...why? What's the upside to Trump to claiming Russia wasn't behind the hack?
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Lester Holt, Moderator: Our next segment is called securing America. We want to start with a 21st century war happening every day in this country, our institutions are under cyber attack, and our secrets are being stolen. So my question is who's behind it and how do we fight it?

Donald Trump: I do want to say that I was just endorsed and more are coming next week, it will be over 200 admirals. Many of them are here, admirals and generals endorsed me to lead this country. That just happened. And many more are coming. And I'm very proud of it. In addition, I was just endorsed by the ICE. So when Secretary Clinton talks about I'll take the admirals and generals any day over the political hacks.

Look at the mess that we're in. Look at the mess that we're in. As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said, we should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we're not. I don't know if we know it was Russia who broke into the DNC.

She's saying Russia, Russia, Russia. Maybe it was. It could also be China, it could be someone sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. You don't know who broke into DNC, but what did we learn? We learn that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people. By Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Look what happened to her. But Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of. Now, whether that was Russia, whether that was China, whether it was another country, we don't know, because the truth is, under President Obama we've lost control of things that we used to have control over. We came in with an internet, we came up with the internet.

And I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the internet, they're beating us at our own game. ISIS. So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a, it is a huge problem. I have a son.

He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it's hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that's true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them.

Made up endorsement from ICE, Russian defense, 400 pound hackers, cybering, and 10 year old computer whizzes.
post #144 of 724
there were mulitple things yesterday from both that were the strangest I've seen on a debate stage. But I guess that is a tertiary point of this election, the joke is on us.


Also, personally and anecdotally, I think this Trump/Hispanic thing is overblown. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets +40% of the hispanic vote that actually shows up to vote.
post #145 of 724
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Just don't know with her. She could well be thinking a working mother just showing up for work is worthy of merit increases.

 

Does she believe anything?  I don't know.  Trump just goes full stream of consciousness, so who can say if he's saying what he believes or just free associating words.  Hillary though has flip flopped on issues more than John Kerry.

post #146 of 724
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Also, personally and anecdotally, I think this Trump/Hispanic thing is overblown. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets +40% of the hispanic vote that actually shows up to vote.

This sounds like one of those "the plural of anecdote is not data" moments.


The polling has Clinton up something like 50 points among Hispanics. Romney only got 26%, and I can't imagine why Trump would do better, especially considering his disastrous favorability ratings with Hispanics.
post #147 of 724
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Does she believe anything?  I don't know.  Trump just goes full stream of consciousness, so who can say if he's saying what he believes or just free associating words.  Hillary though has flip flopped on issues more than John Kerry.

Point of order: starting with the Obama Administration Democrats do not "flip flop" on positions...they "evolve their thinking."

Which, really, this what we should want in our leaders. There's saying something because it's expedient, "shit you say to get elected," and then there's a reasoned change in one's thinking. It's fucking horrible that politics is so tainted.
post #148 of 724
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I'm really wondering why Trump reflexively defends Russia. Like...why? What's the upside to Trump to claiming Russia wasn't behind the hack?

it wasn't that, Hillary wanted to distract from actual corruption at DNC by blaming russian hackers, while Trump wanted to come back to the issue saying it doesn't matter who it was(and that we don't know)

It's quite surprising you are believing DNC claims and taking them at face value

The person who is said to be behind it is Guccifer 2.0 - this is the original Guccifer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer some romanian guy,). There's ZERO proof it was russian intelligence. In fact groups and indviduals cooperating with for example wiki leaks realeased this type of information for years now.

And instead of focusing on what was in the emails you are focusing on who allegedly obtained them and you are supposed to be the one of the smarter ones

so well played HRC, well played
post #149 of 724
Except the question wasn't about the DNC issues.

The question was about cyber-security, the DNC emails were just an example. Deflecting it back to the DNC is in fact dodging the question.
post #150 of 724

otc, stop shilling for Hillary like @lawyerdad.  When the revolution comes, economists, such as yourself, will already have a black mark next to their name.  You don't want to wind up against the wall, do you?

 

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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Point of order: starting with the Obama Administration Democrats do not "flip flop" on positions...they "evolve their thinking."

Which, really, this what we should want in our leaders. There's saying something because it's expedient, "shit you say to get elected," and then there's a reasoned change in one's thinking. It's fucking horrible that politics is so tainted.

 

I agree, politicians should change their positions over time.  When we learn new facts, we should adjust our positions.  Unfortunately, the only fact that politicians care about is public opinion on an issue.

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