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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant 

The collar needs fixing, the shoulders are flawed, and the jacket is too short. Despite that, it doesn't look bad (for casual use only). Nice-looking color and fabric.

Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant 

The collar needs fixing, the shoulders are flawed, and the jacket is too short. Despite that, it doesn't look bad (for casual use only). Nice-looking color and fabric.

Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant 

The collar needs fixing, the shoulders are flawed, and the jacket is too short. Despite that, it doesn't look bad (for casual use only). Nice-looking color and fabric.

Originally Posted by Simon at Elite 

The jacket is an inch or two shorter then standard but slightly shorter jackets are in fashion at the moment

Did you press the jacket before the photos? The collar isn't sitting properly but a good press may solve it.

I don't think the shoulders are flawed. I think the problem is that you carry your arms forward quite considerably. In all the photos your arms seem to be held at a 30 degree forward angle. This is an exceptionally large angle even for an "arms forward" body. Accordingly it's causing the sleeves to pull at the back and pulling the shoulders slightly askew. You need to have the sleeves rotated and keep this in mind for future purchases.

I'd also remeasure your crotch measurements. Perhaps measuring a good fitting pair of dress pants


Overall though not a bad effort for your second go. You're definitely getting there. Just a few more tweaks

Originally Posted by VinnyMac 

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Those are the criticisms that I was going to make. The shoulders look a bit too wide and bunched up. The jacket covers your butt, but it still looks short. You've got collar gap. The sleeves are also a bit too short.

All in all, the jacket doesn't look bad. It fits better than most of the suits that I see in everyday life.

Originally Posted by Karl Drogo 


I'm still pretty new to suits; I greatly appreciate all input but would benefit from deeper analysis please. You've told me what's wrong (which is fantastic) but I also need to be told what's right.
If it's too short, do you guys suggest a remake? I haven't pressed anything; I received the package on Friday night and then let it hang in my closet to relax until the Sunday afternoon I took those photos.

Dear Indochino,

My ship date for Order #****** was February 5, 2013. I understand that remakes can be requested within 14 days of this ship date. I am seeking your personal advice on a possible remake before I go through the official process. Due to the extensive nature of possible adjustments, I don't feel like a tailor will be able to work his magic so I may have to skip that step.

I have attached many photos below of me wearing the Indochino Navy Cotton Suit from Order #******. I was wondering if you could please advise on the fit. Some various critiques I have received include the following:

-Is the jacket an inch or two shorter than normal? It covers my butt, but if I were to extend my arms perfectly straight downward, it would fail the test where I would curl my fingers and be able to cup the bottom of the jacket. If the jacket needs to be lengthened, will that affect the button stance? Does the top button currently seem just a tad higher than my natural waistline? If so, should it not be lowered accordingly with the lengthening of the jacket?

-My arms hang naturally in a forward angled position as seen in the photos. Apparently this is affecting the jacket armholes and it's causing the sleeves to pull at the back and pulling the shoulders slightly askew. Does this assessment seem right to you? If so, is it possible to rotate the sleeves forward?

-Do the jacket shoulders appear a tad wide and causing them to bunch up? I think these are called "shoulder divots". You can see the rippling effect on the front photos ever so slightly, but are quite obvious when viewed on the back photos.

-One person also suggested reevaluating my crotch measurements. I do like slim pants, but from the way the pants look in the photos, do you suggest any changes? The pants are a tiny bit on the tight side in the crotch/butt region, restricting mobility a bit (especially when I need to spread my legs like when I'm kneeling, squatting, or have one leg propped up higher than the other.

-Do the jacket sleeves look a tad short to you? There seems to be a bit more shirt cuff showing than normal. (The shirt is an Indochino Light Blue Essential Wrinkle-Free Shirt.)

-A couple of people noted that I seem to have "collar gap"; that is, the jacket lapel doesn't follow the shirt collar and the tips of the collar points don't "kiss" the jacket lapel (instead, it comes inward and you can see the tips). Should the jacket lapel/collar hug the shirt collar a bit tighter?

-Could the jacket back be tightened up ever so slightly, without the excessive extreme seen in my previous Indochino Essential Navy Suit which makes the vent flap hang a bit unnaturally? Seen here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/notp1/indochino_navy/indochino_navy_remake15.jpg I have no idea how to fix this.

Is there anything else you might have spotted that could be fine-tuned? Below are the photos of the Navy Cotton Suit as a reference point.

---Here I linked the photos of Navy Cotton Suit you've seen a few posts above.---

Thank you for any and all style advice you may be able to provide.

---Name removed---

Hello ***,

Thank you very much for your email.

I have re-set your Account to enable you to apply for a Remake via our website

To ensure you receive the best possible fit, please base the measurement adjustments on the Suit you received. Please DO NOT re-measure yourself.

Simply put on the Suit and jot down where it needs to be taken in (or let out, as the case may be) in inches. You will then be prompted during the remake application to enter in these adjustments.

Also, please note in the comment field any further issues you had with your original order and please upload photos of yourself wearing the Suit to further assist our tailors address the fit issues.

(Please ensure that any attachments/photos uploaded are in .JPG format only and do not exceed 1MB in file size each.)

Based on you photos, the Jacket Length seems ideal. The ideal length for our Jackets is to hit around the first thumb knuckle (when your hands are by your side). But ultimately, a Jacket’s length is a personal preference. Some Customers prefer it an 1" shorter, and other 3" longer.

The Jacket’s button stance is determined by its length in proportion to the lapels, which is in turn is determined by your torso/body measurements. As such, button stance location is not a customizable feature on our Suits.

Unfortunately we are unable to rotate sleeves on our Jackets.

The Shoulder Width appears okay, but could be improved with a reduction of between 0.25-0.75".

As for the Crotch adjustment, this can be best determined by you, but an increase would help eliminate the “wedgie” tightness you described.

Sleeve Length appears perfect when worn with your Shirt. Ideally you want between 0.25-0.75" of Shirt Cuff showing.

Should you want the “collar gap” to be reduced, you can try a reduction to your Chest measurement, but this isn’t really advised. The gap between lapel and collar is ultimately determined by the style/cut of your Suit, Lapel style/with and of course the Collar style of your Shirt you are wearing.

Regarding Jacket Hips/Vents, you may wish to slightly reduce this (0.25-0.5), of have this down by a local tailor.

Once received, our Tailors will assess your Remake request before approving it for production.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us at any time.

Regards,

***
Concierge Service

Originally Posted by Chris Raynore 

My first IC suit came in yesterday. I'm very pleased with it out of the box. It fits comfortably, and the color is great.  My only alterations will be to let the sleeves and pants out 1 inch as both are a little short. Other than that I think I lucked out. Shoulders look good, right sleeve was wrinkled from in the box. Crotch fits snug but wanted a more modern look and can deal with the jacket being .5 inch short. The material feels a bit on the thin side so I doubt it'd be good for but a 3 season suit. Mine is the Charcoal essential finished off with a perfect fitting Blank Label MTM (just wrinkled and grabbed off the floor) and a pair of Johnston & Murphy's. Sorry for the dirty mirror, and the second pic shows the color better than in my closet.

Originally Posted by Karl Drogo 

And here is their informative and timely reply!

The Jacket’s button stance is determined by its length in proportion to the lapels, which is in turn is determined by your torso/body measurements. As such, button stance location is not a customizable feature on our Suits

Unfortunately we are unable to rotate sleeves on our Jackets.

Should you want the “collar gap” to be reduced, you can try a reduction to your Chest measurement, but this isn’t really advised. The gap between lapel and collar is ultimately determined by the style/cut of your Suit, Lapel style/with and of course the Collar style of your Shirt you are wearing.

Originally Posted by Karl Drogo 

Am I getting the wrong impression? I learned about "collar gap" from the following link: http://putthison.com/post/7215023321/collar-gaps-shoulder-divots-an-explanation

The photo of Kanye West shows what that author is calling "collar gap".

What would be the technical term for the "space between the shirt collar points and jacket lapels"? And is that space a severe issue or is it acceptable?

(One note: some people use the phrase “collar gap” to describe the space between the blades of a shirt collar - the place where the tie knot goes. That’s not what we’re talking about here.)