I agree with your fit assessments. You look like you have a thick upper body, which always makes this stuff tough. Great f'ing mustache!
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Indochino suits? - Page 194post #2896 of 32501/2/13 at 11:54am
Styleforum Top Pickspost #2897 of 32501/2/13 at 1:47pmpost #2898 of 32501/4/13 at 6:44amTux came in. Just coming here for more opinions.
Was already told to get the jacket taken in some, also have the pants slimmed and hemmed. I want to wait to see how they'll look with shoes before I get it hemmed though. This fit is without braces, studs and shoes because I haven't bought any of them yet.post #2899 of 32501/4/13 at 9:54amQuote:Originally Posted by omgitswes
Tux came in. Just coming here for more opinions.
Was already told to get the jacket taken in some, also have the pants slimmed and hemmed. I want to wait to see how they'll look with shoes before I get it hemmed though. This fit is without braces, studs and shoes because I haven't bought any of them yet.
I think the first picture looks pretty darn good. Which is why I'm confused with the profile and seeing the vents flared out.post #2900 of 32501/4/13 at 12:30pmpost #2901 of 32501/4/13 at 1:58pmQuote:
As of right now, I have 55" around the shoulders, 46" chest with about a 12" drop. It does make for difficult purchasing especially since my weight varies throughout the year. For the most part my waist stays constant plus or minus an inch or two, but my upper proportions fluctuate. Even my neck, which is 16 3/4 will generally be above 17". I'm a little slimmer now than in the pics, 195 lbs versus 200, but before then was at about 220. If only my mustache would grow along with the rest of me!
Thanks!post #2902 of 32501/7/13 at 11:16ampost #2903 of 32501/12/13 at 2:19pm
I just received my tuxedo, and I think the fit is very good for my first try. I'm getting the sleeves shortened, but is there anything else that you would recommend? Is the chest a little tight? I'm trying to figure out why the lapels seem to move horizontally away from my shirt collar and increase the width of the V in the middle. Does this look like a problem? The pants fit very well, so I didn't include pictures of the bottom half here.post #2904 of 32501/14/13 at 6:42ampost #2905 of 32501/14/13 at 9:07am
I have never order from Indochino myself as I have seen too many pictures of ill fitting results posted on the internet, and I know there are probably a few threads of them on Stylefourm.
That said Jeffrey Diduch a master tailor with a great blog did an honest straight forward review of them and the "indochino" process. http://tuttofattoamano.blogspot.ca/search?q=indochino
Hopefully this helps.post #2906 of 32501/14/13 at 11:09ampost #2907 of 32501/14/13 at 2:34pmQuote:
The problem with online MTM is that the customer is under the impression that they can simply send in a set of measurements and receive a perfectly fitting suit in the mail. In reality the chances of this happening are very slim. The online MTM industry itself has to take a fair share of the blame for this mistaken belief.
Apart from being supplied with the wrong measurements there are a number of reasons why the suit won't fit properly straight out of the box. For a start there is personal opinion on how a suit should fit. What one person considers a good fit will seem badly fitted to others. Customer also see the pictures on the site and expect their suit to look like that when the pictures have been taken by professional photographers under ideal lighting conditions and have been extensively photoshopped. Never forget the model used also has a perfect body for wearing a suit and the suit would have been custom made and altered as needed to fit absolutely perfectly. I once had a customer complain that his suit didn't taper enough at the waist. I had to give him the unfortunate news that as he didn't taper in at the waist we were unable to do that for the suit without making the chest and hips too large.
If you order a MTM suit from your local tailor they will do exactly the same as Indochino. They will get a set of measurements and send them to an Asian suit factory for the suit to be tailored. The finished suit is then sent back to the store and I can tell you it will at that stage fit no better or worse than anything you ordered from Indochino. Here's the important step that most people miss. When you order a MTM suit at a store and the finished suit arrives they will call you in for a fitting and then send the suit out to be altered to fit properly. This is normally done locally and included in the upfront price of the suit.
If a perfectly fitted suit can't be done first time in a store where the staff have experience in measuring people it's unrealistic to expect any online MTM retailer to achieve this when in most cases they are relying on the customer to self measure.
The final post delivery alteration is important and should be expected and factored into your suiting budget, especially for your first suit. Without that it's unlikely that your suit will fit perfectly. All online MTM companies usually have some provision for when a customer stuff up his measurements completely and offer some form of credit for alterations the generosity of which will depend on the margins they operate on. One thing to keep in mind though is that fit guarantees cost money and are factored into the price of your suit. Once you have your first suit right you can use that as a template for future orders which should result in subsequent suits fitting far better and not needing any major alterations and at most a minor tweak. So if your using a company that offers a no questions asked guarantee, after your first suit you continue to pay for the guarantee that you're unlikely to need.
Rather then expecting a perfectly fitting suit out of the box, online MTM customers should be looking at getting a superior tailored suit far cheaper then at your local tailors even when the cost of any post delivery alterations are included. This is something that many companies, including Indochino, can provide. The benefits of being internet based allow for quality tailoring and good fabrics at a price much lower than if you brought at a store.
Once customers lose the expectation of receiving a perfectly fitting suit straight out of the box and realise that it will more than likely need to be altered to get the right fit (especially if it's your first MTM suit), then the true benefits of online tailoring become apparent. Used properly, you should be able to buy a suit of equal quality, if not even better, than you can get at your local tailor but at around half the price.post #2908 of 32501/14/13 at 6:21pmSimon, have been checking your website - you are certainly not a man of few words It's true what you say about different fit expectations, people not being built like models and bad photos of course. If you check back, you will always see that guys with a nice stature have the best fitting suits - not much of a surprise. Everything looks better on them. I have a strangely long upper body, so suit jackets always look a bit long on me - can't do much about that (yeah, I can wear the jackets shorter, but then it looks weird from behind at some point).post #2909 of 32501/15/13 at 5:20pm
Hi guys, a couple questions for a MTM newbie over here: one about measurements; the other about Indochino's line of trench coats.
- First, a general question about tailoring. I recently had myself measured in a showroom, with the understanding that the measurements/textile preferences for a suit would then be forwarded offshore to a tailor in India, and then mailed back to Canada. Took about 15 minutes for the measurements. However, I asked the business a few weeks later for a copy of those measurements and the same guy who measured me before has refused to release them to me (my own body measurements!). Presumably, this is because he doesn't want me to take those measurements to a competitor like Indochino. Should I just demand those measurements? Or is he completely in his rights to never give them to me? He has them on file, so I don't see what the big deal is...
- Secondly, I was wondering what your thoughts were of Indochino's trench coats. Has anyone had any experience ordering one? And if so, how is the material? Very waterproof? And would you go with the Adventurer or Excursionist style? Hard for me to tell the difference, aside from the sleeve straps (I prefer the Adventurer ones) and the length (I prefer the longer Excursionist).
Trench coats can be viewed here:
There's one review here:
Would appreciate your thoughts!
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