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post #46 of 59
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Originally Posted by JSFrieschskys View Post
 

Bad. Very bad. Hard to be a credible villain with a french accent. You should probably just abandon this endeavor. 

Agreed.  It's probably best to change your accent.  German and Russian are good, but in a pinch, Columbian, a la "Narcos", will do.

 

Only one super villain with a French accent comes to mind:

 

Bomb Voyage, from The Incredibles.  

 

He's not much to look at, but he did create a real super villain, so that's something.

 

White, high waisted pants (Incotex is a good place to start) and a tight t-shirt (http://www.agnesb.fr/homme/t-shirts/t-shirt-tight-boutons-bleu) is probably the way to go.  The shirt that I chose is blue, but as you know, a mindnight blue shirt is better in dim lighting than black, which often appears to be a beit green.

post #47 of 59
A very sleek attaché case...


Fashioned from the skin of your enemies.
post #48 of 59

Try the Pierre Laval look........

post #49 of 59
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Originally Posted by JSFrieschskys View Post
 

Yeah, lets scrap this whole "super villain" gimmick and turn you into the "office love machine".

 

You'll be super babyface, and once people get bored with you, you can turn heel and really irritate everyone! This is a gimmick with some legs, baby!


I actually suport this! 

For man, you'll be super villain, for women though... :smarmy:

post #50 of 59
Thread Starter 
My friends, this thread is dying. Thanks to all of you for your contribution to realizing my grand vision. The road for the sartorial villain is never ending.
post #51 of 59
This has far more to do with attitude than anything else. The fact that you're asking this question means that you are not a sarcastic d-bag or a sociopath. If you were a sarcastic d-bag, you'd just continue to internet troll, act like a jerk, and treat people like crap to improve your game. If you were a sociopath you'd continue to disregard people. Either way, at least subconsciously, the people around you would respond in the way you are looking for...because they would confuse your indifference and crappy behavior with being capable...and they'd fear it.

Since you are neither of these, it will require a bit more work to get where you want to be and some of it will be unnatural for you.

Here are the three things that frame the rest of the discussion:

1. People want an Alpha to take charge - my daughter calls them metas (as in meta humans). In simple terms, you can think about it this way: why does our culture pursue sport teams by spending their time and money to learn about and associate with these teams? It is significance by association. Either association with the vaunted position of coach or owner to validate *their* intellectual position. Or association with a player to connect with their physical prowess. This is basic, but I hope it makes the point.
2. Your task is to achieve the dramatic, not the actual. You're wanting to be perceived as Valdemort, not cast spells like Valdemort (I hope). Consider it this way: Daniel Craig has far more in common with his character in Dragon Tattoo than with 007. There are no real 007s who can drink a gallon of scotch (or 12 martinis, shaken not stirred) then shoot multiple assailants with a .32, at a distance of over 25m, with a heavy crosswind, from a moving vehicle. Then fall multiple stories and kill a man with bare hands. And, finish with an hour of passionate (successful) love-making. Your objective is to help people believe this is possible, not demonstrate that it is possible.
3. You can dress to be pretty or you can dress to be powerful. Sometimes there is cross over, but not always. For instance, Southern Trad (aka. "I spent a lot of money to look like I shop indiscriminately at Goodwill") is attractive, fashionable, and it looks cool. But...and this is a big butt...it conveys acquiesce, not authority. That is, it appears as though you are "giving in" to the responsibility to maintain your appearance while demonstrating contempt...and NOT like you're grabbing the responsibility and owning it. It's ok to dress pretty, just understand that it is counter to your desire to convey authority.

About a year ago, I walked into a Nordstrom, in a suit, with my wife and our two children, just to shop: no weirdness, no strutting. Keep in mind, my children and wife were standing right there the whole time. One of the ladies hustled over to me. She said, and meant, "Oooh...I thought you were House!" She was breathless. "I love House, oh my." More breathlessness. "You look so nice." And it went on for a few minutes. I thanked her and smiled all while giving her intense eye contact. And, left her breathless... FWIW, this type of stuff is daily, almost everywhere I go and almost all situations.

I look NOTHING like House. I'm 5'9", bald and I usually have a heavy beard. My wife and I still laugh about this exchange. She even makes fun of me (once in a while) by calling me House. Regardless, what that lady wanted to see, needed to see, was someone who (in her mind) seemed authoritative and powerful. She didn't know me and she never really even saw *me*...I mean, the real me. I let her see what she needed to see. And it made her happy.

Also, I'm not Valdemort, or 007, or whoever. I'm just me. I even explain to people exactly what I am doing...what I'm explaining to you here...and it has zero impact on their perception.

These are guide lines to make this easier. You can break or ignore any of them, but you will have to "up your game" in other areas to compensate.

1. Talk less. Listen more. Maintain eye contact: chin slightly down, eyes up.
2. Don't empathize. Acknowledge the persons attempt to confide/communicate, but receive it as a parent who must teach the person to overcome. That doesn't mean you discuss their issue, just receive it as though you are weighing it. Remember, you're not an a$$hole, you're a person of authority who respects their need to communicate.
3. Do not participate in ANY office grousing or woe-is-me discussions...ever. Listen if you must, but NEVER participate or pass judgement. Again, you are the authority figure who is stalwart in the storm and you respect that they are venting.
4. Always wear a dark, solid color suit and NEVER take off your jacket when you are with other people (as the dress shirt is actually no different than underwear). Only in private do you not wear a suit. You'll get used to it...
5. Solid, muted, understated ties: black, gray, olive, navy. MAYBE eggplant/plum on Friday.
6. White shirt only. Blue shirt conveys that you submit to someone else. Colors project vanity.
7. White linen or cotton pocket square...always.
8. "Casual Friday" is not something you participate in. At most, you still wear a dark blazer with your jeans...white shirt rule still applies.

You're conveying an image of someone who is not frivolous or fancy. You're the authority. You're concerned to display that you will always do more than your peers, you'll always do more than you are asked, but you're not arrogant about it...it's just how you are.

You have to come to terms with what you are asking: You're changing your life...not strapping on a persona. You're deciding to be the meta that you wish to be (i.e. you're a human choosing to do the best you can do...always).

All of this is a bit easier for me because I live in Atlanta and no one here knows how to dress, or to act, while in public. Lots of people wear ties with khakis...that's not dressing. Some wear mismatched jackets and trousers and they take off the jacket when they get to their destination...this defeats the objective in the first place. So...any effort I put forth is magnified by the absence of effort on everyone else's part.

Of note is: ability. Ability is important, but probably not in the way you think. Ability is not what will convey the authority you're looking for. Ability is personal and usually just changes the shape of your day: If you have ability, your day is easier and you can concentrate on other things. If you don't have ability, getting through the day is tougher and takes more time. Regardless, you can lead and motivate without ability.

Here's some bonus material. An "attack vector," if you need a place to start. But I need to provide a caveat: I am hopelessly in love with, and devoted to, the most amazing women in the world. I seek no other and I will not receive another. Here we go: I cultivate relationships with the women around me (remember, suits are to women as lingerie is to us). Why do I do this? Three reasons:

1. Conversations are always warm and friendly.
2. There is always an opportunity to advertise a successful interaction with the people around me...without looking like I'm fishing for it.
3. Every man around me knows that I am dominating the room...and I never have to take a shot at "the enemy." I go straight for the treasure while they're fighting it out with one another for superiority (If you like to fight and you're capable of winning, that still has nothing to do with the poise you are looking for. People fear a bully, they do not respect one).

If you're gay, this may look a bit different, but you can make it work...you'll have to do the tailoring. I worked with a big gay Texan...but I didn't know he was gay for over a year. The thing is, I don't think I've met a woman who wouldn't have swooned at this guy. And, he really only ever looked like an average guy, but you never perceived him that way. He was 6' tall...maybe 6'3" with his boots. But...he never looked any less than 7'6". He always wore a suit. He always listened. He always maintained devastating eye contact. And when he took action he did more than was asked or expected. He never let his outside concerns interfere with his objectives and responsibilities. He was meta. Everyone knew when he entered a room. And..he made it feel like the right thing to do was always more than asked.

There ya go. Treat these ideas like Lego and start arranging them in a way that makes sense in your life.
post #52 of 59
Some interesting and humorous advice in this thread. I won't comment on specific recommendations. Paraphrasing what may be more helpful here let me suggest that you can't starting wearing different clothes (or acting differently) and expect people to see you (and therefore treat you) differently. While clothes may help form an impression with strangers, those familiar with you may treat you with less respect if you appear contrived or playing "dress up".

OP if you are serious you need to be honest with yourself and accept that you are wanting to transform yourself. The change required is not superficial but substantial and will take time and significant effort and you may not be successful.

If you want to be treated with respect, even deference, you must be seen as highly competent. You get to wear more eccentric clothes (and let's face it a three piece suit is eccentric in most office environments nowadays) because you are great at what you do and seen as such. If you are not seen as an expert in some capacity you need to get there. Volunteer for tasks. Show your boss and bosses' boss you aspire to more. Read stuff related to you job in your own time. Read about general interest items in smart periodicals (start with the Economist). Be someone who appears well read and has intelligent opinions. As you gain competence you can slowly bring your clothes along. Wear dark, boring two piece suits occasionally. Wear extremely soporific ties and shirts (pale blue works well here). Wear plain men's dress shoes in dark brown or black. Don't wear anything that stands out or makes you look like a dandy (no pocket squares, no kooky ties, no fun socks, nothing that a business executive from the 1950s would not wear). On Friday's wear a boring sport jacket with a boring tie. Don't start wearing this as a uniform overnight - adopt it slowly so no one even notices the change while you build you competence/level of expertise.

It also helps if you have positional authority - there is a tendency in American culture to defer to authority. This assumes you are more than a "team lead" but actually have the authority to hire/fire and reward/punish. Obviously the more senior you are the more positional authority you convey. You can enhance positional authority with personal authority by actually being someone people seek out for advice/guidance/mentorship or to lead important/sensitive projects. You don't get this overnight - it takes a long time (it helps if you have one of those mirrors from Star Trek's evil parallel universe to destroy your enemies and rivals).

If you can't get to a high degree of personal competence or have no prospects of promotion there are no clothes that will help you fake it. Appreciate and enjoy your role as a nice guy (and you'll also save on a wardrobe).
post #53 of 59

This thread has been brilliantly hilarious! I suggest 3 piece suits. Dark and tonal with no "fussy" patterning in your shirt, tie & square. Anchor the look with a pair of dress boots and top it off with a military officer's coat when weather appropriate. Don't forget your leather gloves.

post #54 of 59
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Originally Posted by Randy Brooks View Post
 

This thread has been brilliantly hilarious! I suggest 3 piece suits. Dark and tonal with no "fussy" patterning in your shirt, tie & square. Anchor the look with a pair of dress boots and top it off with a military officer's coat when weather appropriate. Don't forget your leather gloves.

I think that trousers tucked into tall boots is more villainous.  Also, you guys keep on forgetting the eyepatch.

post #55 of 59

You can dress up like Dracula and still look like a school boy, to be a badass you need to behave like one, stand tall, very, i.e. have a perfect posture, keep your chest up and out all the time. do not make a lot of facial expressions, that helps as well and keeps your face without wrinkles. say thank you and sorry less often only when strictly necessary. that will increase you badassness.

post #56 of 59
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Originally Posted by jkiser View Post

There are no real 007s who can drink a gallon of scotch (or 12 martinis, shaken not stirred) then shoot multiple assailants with a .32, at a distance of over 25m, with a heavy crosswind, from a moving vehicle. Then fall multiple stories and kill a man with bare hands. And, finish with an hour of passionate (successful) love-making.

 

Wait, what? :(

post #57 of 59
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Originally Posted by jkiser View Post

There are no real 007s who can drink a gallon of scotch (or 12 martinis, shaken not stirred) then shoot multiple assailants with a .32, at a distance of over 25m, with a heavy crosswind, from a moving vehicle. Then fall multiple stories and kill a man with bare hands. And, finish with an hour of passionate (successful) love-making. Your objective is to help people believe this is possible, not demonstrate that it is possible.

Lot's of guys have done this in college. It's called whiskey dick and usually takes forever to finish.
post #58 of 59
Clearly the op has never met me.
post #59 of 59

Gangster number 1, recent movie based on the 60s, great suits in there.

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