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post #196 of 224

There are scores of mills that only the most knowledgeable in the textile industry would know about. Most of the well publicised merchants source the fabrics from multiple smaller mills.

One of the reasons you hear about Loro Piana is because it is owned by Louis Vuitton so you have to be careful about branding, even when dealing with fabrics.

I find it curious that Enlever see Vetements only stocks English suiting as most Thai tailors seem to prefer stocking the Italian weaves. Speaking of which, I think Vitale barberis canonico would be a brand in your price range that makes nice fabrics. I've heard Guabello mentioned before as an  alternative to VBC, but Thai tailors will be unlikely to stock it.

post #197 of 224

I learned about Loro Piana when I was buying a cashmere sweater (on sale) at Bergdorf Goodman in New York.  The sales associate walked me through the different quality cashmeres and informed me that LP was considered the finest in part because they have decades-old contracts with the wholesalers of the fiber that guarantee them all the longest fibers.  Longer fibers apparently means softer feel and longer life.  He intimated that no one would pass LP in quality because they cornered the market on the very best raw material.

 

Thanks for the tip on VBC.  ToT offers it as a mid-range choice.  ToT is currently in first place in the race to win my business.  (But we have many laps yet to complete!)

post #198 of 224

H&S like VBC has a big range of fabrics, with high quality and entry level.

 

I personally don't like H&S compared to Dormieul, Charles Clayton..etc.

 

VBC has bad reputation around here as being budget and low quality, but the revenge series is nice. The cheaper ones are a miss, but the better ones are pretty good for the price. Beside, Zegna buys lots from VBC!

post #199 of 224

Hello everyone, this is my first post here. My wife and I have been going to Thailand for about a decade, and I have had several suits made by the same no name guy that nobody has heard of.  The building he was in got demolished last year, so I am now looking for a new place to go. I have budgeted around 16,000 TBH for my suit. I have a couple of question for you all.

 

Would it be better to purchase the fabric while I am here in the US and bring it with me? If so, what is a good website to use? I live in Kansas City where there is NO local places to purchase anything.

 

If I do purchase my own fabric before we leave, do I buy 4 yards?  I am 6'3" and weigh 175lbs if that helps.

 

I am thinking of going to ToT. If I don't buy the fabric from home, would the 16,000 get me a suit and maybe a shirt or two as well?

 

 

Again, I live in KC, which is NOT the fashion capital of the US. I am looking for descent work, I don't need high end anything...the biggest thing that I like from my old tailor is the working buttons on the cuffs :)

 

I have a total of 10 days in Bangkok, hopefully this is enough time to get the fittings in.

 

 

Thanks for your time and help!

post #200 of 224
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Hello everyone, this is my first post here. My wife and I have been going to Thailand for about a decade, and I have had several suits made by the same no name guy that nobody has heard of.  The building he was in got demolished last year, so I am now looking for a new place to go. I have budgeted around 16,000 TBH for my suit. I have a couple of question for you all.

Would it be better to purchase the fabric while I am here in the US and bring it with me? If so, what is a good website to use? I live in Kansas City where there is NO local places to purchase anything.

If I do purchase my own fabric before we leave, do I buy 4 yards?  I am 6'3" and weigh 175lbs if that helps.

I am thinking of going to ToT. If I don't buy the fabric from home, would the 16,000 get me a suit and maybe a shirt or two as well?


Again, I live in KC, which is NOT the fashion capital of the US. I am looking for descent work, I don't need high end anything...the biggest thing that I like from my old tailor is the working buttons on the cuffs smile.gif

I have a total of 10 days in Bangkok, hopefully this is enough time to get the fittings in.


Thanks for your time and help!

Time is one of the most important parts of the equation.

Make your order on your first day.

Normally bringing your own fabric is a good idea but considering where you are perhaps using fabric available at the tailor is a good idea.

Have you tried to find your old tailor?
post #201 of 224

Thanks Sam, I appreciate it. I haven't found my old guy yet...it is probably time to try something new anyway :)  I see you are in CM, we will be there for a few days as well. We are staying at the Siripanna. 

post #202 of 224
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Thanks Sam, I appreciate it. I haven't found my old guy yet...it is probably time to try something new anyway smile.gif  I see you are in CM, we will be there for a few days as well. We are staying at the Siripanna. 

If your old tailor wasn't working for you - look for another - otherwise stick with him.

We are now just outside of Chiang Mai in Sansai near MaeJo University.
post #203 of 224

Hi ASL,

 

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Would it be better to purchase the fabric while I am here in the US and bring it with me? If so, what is a good website to use? I live in Kansas City where there is NO local places to purchase anything.

 

If I do purchase my own fabric before we leave, do I buy 4 yards?  I am 6'3" and weigh 175lbs if that helps.

 

This has been discussed a fair amount on this thread (forum even) and the standard response is if you don't already have access to wholesale/discounted fabrics of the quality you expect then perhaps just using the fabrics carried by the tailor is the best approach. This is especially true if using a tailor for the first time because there are several factors which might dissuade them from accepting your fabric.

 

If you do find some fabric, 4 yards would be plenty for a two piece suit.

 

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I am thinking of going to ToT. If I don't buy the fabric from home, would the 16,000 get me a suit and maybe a shirt or two as well?

 

I posted ToT price list from late last year on page 5 of this thread. THB16,000 is cutting it fine even for a suit.

 

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Originally Posted by ASLinterpreter View Post

 

Again, I live in KC, which is NOT the fashion capital of the US. I am looking for descent work, I don't need high end anything...the biggest thing that I like from my old tailor is the working buttons on the cuffs :)

 

I have a total of 10 days in Bangkok, hopefully this is enough time to get the fittings in.

 

I agree, it's the little extras that Thai tailors do for little/free that make them attractive. Surgeon cuffs are not cheap to do locally.

10 days should be plenty of time for some shirts and a fused suit.

Cheers,
HPH


Edited by Halifax - 5/2/14 at 8:42pm
post #204 of 224

just had some shirts made at Pierre Tailors, located inside Erawan Hotel. I'm satisfied with their work, though the fabric choices are quite limited.

post #205 of 224
Unfortunately and reluctantly I have to reverse my former opinion about Tailor on Ten... the workmanship has gone downhill. Had a fitting and the trouser zipper was blatantly visible after closure, with all sorts of tugging ripples coming off of it and pocket ripples too. The Indian/South Asian guy fitting me refused to acknowledge it was a problem (if I even understood his English), and I was too exhausted to go downstairs to complain to the bosses, nor felt like making a scene. Loose threads, various other fitting flaws. The concept of this place is good, but you gotta remember the bosses are neither tailors nor cutters, which is evident even by looking at what they wear, so don't get the impression you're going to get even Hong Kong level tailoring here. They're very nice though and if you're not picky I'd still recommend it along with Narin and Tanika.
post #206 of 224

I found this article online yesterday.  Clearly this guy should have been reading Style Forum!

post #207 of 224

HI Svenn, when was your last experience with ToT?

 

I was there last week thinking of making just 1 or 2 shirts but left with 5 shirts and 1 cotton pants. The range and quality of fabrics were pretty extensive and good!

 

I was fortunate to have meet Alex who was very helpful and informative, and probably shared more than he should about ToT's vision and practices. He brought me back to see their working spaces and the cutter..etc, which was really cool. He said more than 1 time that they do not and will not put anything out there which quality is compromised, so that was very reassuring and impressive.

 

Come to 1st fitting day, I tried a shirt and the cotton pant. The shirt was pretty okay and just needed some cleaning up of excess fabric. The pant was a little to slim for my liking and the crouch was too tight and uncomfortable, but I stick to their recommendation about the cut as they do like theirs more fashionable. Matter of preference.

 

2nd fitting. I was supposed to come try on the shirts and pick them up, however, the other 4 shirts were too roomy for me and the sleeves were a bit sloppy and armholes a tad too low. The shortcomings were not major, but I was probably expect them to get it much closer to a tailored shirt rather than a well fitting off the rack. 

 

Regarding the pants, I asked for it to be less slim and they are doing it. My only disappointment is that the pants is a little low waist for my liking, and they did not ask me about how high I usually wear my pant when they were taking the measurements. It was partly my fault for not highlighting it, BUT I was a little too tired going thru measurements for 5 shirts. I've got short legs, so a low waisted pants or a hipster makes my leg look even shorter and body long.. It's also less comfortable imo.

 

Well, my honest thoughts are the following.

i) service is good

ii) they will do alterations and corrections, and will not let a sub standard product leave the shop

iii) they do seem to be doing too well, and this may be a contributing factor to not getting the shirts right

iv) though i'm a patient guy who do not expect it to be ready or done within 4 days during the first time, I can see this as a problem for those who are in town and want shirts in a short time

v) i expected the outcome to be better really, but then again i'm not critical about it because I fly up almost every month

 

FWIW, I went to Narin as well but i really do not think I can work with him

post #208 of 224
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He said more than 1 time that they do not and will not put anything out there which quality is compromised, so that was very reassuring and impressive.

That's all well and good but how is that possible when he passes customers off to Indian fitters and doesn't even look at the end product?

I had your same experience with a very tight crotch. I probably saw you there, we were there the same time.

The guys are very nice don't get me wrong, and it's a real step above the usual Asian tailoring experience to have them there 'helping out'. But at the end of the day it's still a fused Bangkok tailor shop. I've used lots of different custom tailors over the years and you begin to realize with experience that it's the skill, ingenuity, and creativity of the cutter or tailor during the fittings that really matter, not the cloth they have in stock, not the welcoming personalities, and certainly not the accessories like linings or buttons. These guys are just go-betweens and cloth merchants, they're not trained craftsmen... and honestly they should probably admit that.
post #209 of 224
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I found this article online yesterday.  Clearly this guy should have been reading Style Forum!

 

One of the several reasons for reading this thread is to avoid such a situation. I think the take home message is: the quality of clothes you will get from an Asian tailor is a reflection of your interest/passion about your clothing. Go unprepared at your own peril.

 

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These guys are just go-betweens and cloth merchants, they're not trained craftsmen... and honestly they should probably admit that.

 

This was what dissuaded me from visiting them on my last trip.

post #210 of 224
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That's all well and good but how is that possible when he passes customers off to Indian fitters and doesn't even look at the end product?

I had your same experience with a very tight crotch. I probably saw you there, we were there the same time.

The guys are very nice don't get me wrong, and it's a real step above the usual Asian tailoring experience to have them there 'helping out'. But at the end of the day it's still a fused Bangkok tailor shop. I've used lots of different custom tailors over the years and you begin to realize with experience that it's the skill, ingenuity, and creativity of the cutter or tailor during the fittings that really matter, not the cloth they have in stock, not the welcoming personalities, and certainly not the accessories like linings or buttons. These guys are just go-betweens and cloth merchants, they're not trained craftsmen... and honestly they should probably admit that.

 

Svenn, I guess you are right in all points! I'm not fussy with shirts or casual pants because I go through them pretty fast, and don't see the point in spending too much on them. For that reason, 3000thb is actually kinda stretching it for me especially when you consider people come to BKK for economical prices, but I was curios anyhow.

 

However, I will never consider making a jacket or suit there because I don't believe in fused jackets. I'm pretty much settle on Tanika for my pants because they make the best fitting pants on me with very little "corrections" needed, This was so even for my latest pants fitting at Tanika, it feels and fits exactly like the others!

 

My measurements were done by Alex, and Ben was always try to be there for the fittings.

 

FWIW, in asia most owners are not tailors anymore. Except for the top few which charges a much higher premium, most others are basically businessman rather than trained craftsmen.

 

The difference between ToT and the other Indian tailors are that the work is done in house, whereas the others out source them to sweat shops.

 

Btw, which day did you bump into me? The days where I was really sloppy with my flip flops and berms, or when I was there with me luggage? Would like to have said Hi

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