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post #1 of 83
Thread Starter 
I think it's time for a dedicated thread. Less than a week after the Dallas police massacre I see dozens of cops injured in a St. Paul protest.

To the mods: I'll be pretending @LA Guy finally dubiously honoured me and reporting the fuck out of serious trolls.
post #2 of 83
I had posted this in the HRC will be President thread, but the BLM hypocrisy belongs here.

No secret that BLM seems to care very much when a White cop kills a Black man. Otherwise, the killings of Blacks is no big deal to BLM!

Here is original post about HRC, and BLM hypocrisy,

Hillary might become the next President due to her excellence at pandering.

She releases tweets pandering to Blacks, embraces BLM, and poses with "heroes" like Mike Brown's mother,

But I don't think she will meet Le'Vonte Jones mother. He was probably killed by a gangbanger, and there is nothing to be gained politically, by becoming involved.




MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The family of a 2-year-old boy who was shot and killed in north Minneapolis wants the world to know he had many people who cared about him.

After their weekly church service, four generations of Le’Vonte Jones’ family gathered to ask the public to come forward with any tips to help find his killer. Minneapolis police say the shooting happened around 11:30 a.m. Friday at the intersection of Lowry and Penn Avenues North.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/10/family-mourning-child-killed-in-north-minneapolis-gunfire/

Neither will Gov, Dayton who is too busy coddling BLM

Read the Comments, they are spot on.

#BLM when they are politically exploitable, or there is money to be made

Otherwise, not at all.

Edited by rnoldh - 7/11/16 at 12:24am
post #3 of 83
Black Lives Matter Was Gaining Ground. Then a Sniper Opened Fire.

from the very liberal NYT,

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/us/black-lives-matter-reaction.html?_r=0

“There are some who would use these events to stifle a movement for change and quicken the demise of a vibrant discourse on the human rights of Black Americans,” read a statement from the Black Lives Matter Network. “We should reject all of this.”

The police have said Mr. Johnson — a military veteran who told the authorities that he had hunted down white police officers as retribution for their abuses — had no direct links to any protest group.

But in recounting Mr. Johnson’s final hours, Chief David O. Brown of the Dallas Police Department mentioned the movement by name. “The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter,” he said.'
post #4 of 83
As far as I know blm doesn't require a membership fee and registration form.
post #5 of 83
Giuliani: 'I saved a lot more black lives than Black Lives Matter'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rudy-giuliani-black-lives-matter-225353#ixzz4E7JDRM9d

During an interview with CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday, Giuliani remarked that African-American parents should "teach your children to be respectful to the police, and you've got to teach your children that the real danger to them is not the police."
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"I believe I saved a lot more black lives than Black Lives Matter. I don't see what Black Lives Matter is doing for blacks other than isolating them," Giuliani said Monday on "Fox & Friends." "All it cares about is the police shooting of blacks. It doesn't care about the 90 percent of blacks that have been killed by other blacks. That's just a simple fact. That is a simple fact."


Maybe Rudy should run for Mayor of Chicago

post #6 of 83
Guiliani is an authoritarian shitbag.



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All it cares about is the police shooting of blacks. It doesn't care about the 90 percent of blacks that have been killed by other blacks

And? Police use of force is a serious issue, and one that can be addressed more directly than systemic violence within the community. There's no rational reason why the police issue should be ignored just because there's also a community violence problem.
post #7 of 83
The "community violence issue" is by and large the cause of the police violence issue. You can see direct cause and effect in the two most recent shootings. In one, a guy threatening others with a gun violently resists arrest and is killed by the cops. No gun, no threats, no cops, no death. In the other, a guy is shot in an ambiguous situation because he resembled a man who'd recently robbed a convenience store. If there had been no robbery by someone who looked like him he'd almost certainly still be alive today.
post #8 of 83
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

The "community violence issue" is by and large the cause of the police violence issue. You can see direct cause and effect in the two most recent shootings. In one, a guy threatening others with a gun violently resists arrest and is killed by the cops. No gun, no threats, no cops, no death. In the other, a guy is shot in an ambiguous situation because he resembled a man who'd recently robbed a convenience store. If there had been no robbery by someone who looked like him he'd almost certainly still be alive today.

If police use of force was strictly related to crime in the community, you wouldn't see such huge effects when police department reforms are implemented.

Dallas, as a topical example, has seen consistent decreases in the use of force by officers and complaints about excessive force since reforms were implemented in 2013. The policies and practices of policing matter. There's a great deal of room for improvement in many police departments before they can reasonably throw up their hands and blame "the community."



People know that "the community" can't just get together and decide to change. A police department, however, can implement fairly significant changes in a matter of months. If our government can more responsibility employ its monopoly of force, that is something we should expect even if "the community" is doing more damage to itself.
post #9 of 83
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Dallas, as a topical example, has seen consistent decreases in the use of force by officers and complaints about excessive force since reforms were implemented in 2013.

It's amusing that you deny the "ferguson effect" based on limited data, but you're willing to make sweeping claims about the potential of vague police reforms based on one city's statistics over a couple years.
post #10 of 83
It's hardly just one city. Dallas is just the example that's in the news right now.


Why would you apply the same standards of evidence for a vague thesis of correlation like the "Ferguson effect" and the results of direct reforms implemented by police departments? There's an overt cause and effect in the latter. The police have made a point to change their behavior. It's a known factor. It's much more reasonable to look at the crime and officer violence statistics before and after and expect that differences could be related to the reforms. Something without direct cause and effect like the supposed "Ferguson effect" requires a higher standard of evidence.
post #11 of 83
Thread Starter 
So that cop that shot and killed Castile? His name is Jeronimo Yanez. Does this change the conversation, or after Zimmerman, can we safely assume armed Whisps are racist?
post #12 of 83
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So that cop that shot and killed Castile? His name is Jeronimo Yanez. Does this change the conversation, or after Zimmerman, can we safely assume armed Whisps are racist?

Whisps are probably even worse than white cops in the Police War on Black Males,

Read about the mad dog racist Whisp killer here,

http://www.startribune.com/what-we-know-about-the-officer-who-fatally-shot-philando-castile/386016701/

PS: And Asian cops are perhaps the very worst in the Police War on Black Males. Think of Peter Liang, the Asian Mad Dog Killer Cop. He mowed down Akai Gurley for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

I shudder to think about the viciousness, and evil in the hearts of Eskimo cops and their part in the Police War on Black Males.

PPS: I told you I was going to a BLM rally. See, I learned all of this there.
Edited by rnoldh - 7/12/16 at 11:20pm
post #13 of 83
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Originally Posted by tianhpae View Post

As far as I know blm doesn't require a membership fee and registration form.

You joined the forum to copy the text of my post?
post #14 of 83
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You joined the forum to copy the text of my post?

Probably a spam bot building post count.
post #15 of 83
Here is Mr Tommy Sotomayor, a Black man who posts many videos that touch on BLM and related stuff,

He is outrageous, witty, very funny, profane, and incisive. Sort of like a political Dave Chapelle. He certainly knows about the Black experience living in a Black man's shoes, and Black Culture of music and street life.

He comments about BLM and many related issues in these videos. If a Black man saying the N word, offends you, don't watch them,
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


another one that touches on BLM stuff

The first video is amazing!
Edited by rnoldh - 7/13/16 at 12:17pm
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