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Is untidy welt finish on Loake 1880 shoes normal?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hi guys,

 

I've bought a pair of Loake 1880 based shoes and am a bit concerned about the untidy welt finish of the right shoe and its overall quality. Once I know it there it's hard to forget it to me.

 

The seller assured me that it's pretty normal and would not be classed as a manufacturing fault, but is also happy to exchange another pair for me, although the new pair may have still the same issue. He also said that I should not compare it with my C&J pair which has a perfect welt finish.

 

Could you please have a look at it and let me know how should I deal with it.

 

Thanks

 

post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by clayb View Post
 

Hi guys,

 

I've bought a pair of Loake 1880 based shoes and am a bit concerned about the untidy welt finish of the right shoe and its overall quality. Once I know it there it's hard to forget it to me.

 

The seller assured me that it's pretty normal and would not be classed as a manufacturing fault, but is also happy to exchange another pair for me, although the new pair may have still the same issue. He also said that I should not compare it with my C&J pair which has a perfect welt finish.

 

Could you please have a look at it and let me know how should I deal with it.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Moving this to the Menswear Advice forum....

 

I wouldn't say it is normal, but it isn't uncommon with shoes at that level.  Your guy is right, you can't compare them to C&J.  If it really bothers you, exchange them and hopefully you get a pair with a better finish.  It's on the inside heel so if you keep them, just throw a little dressing on that spot to darken it up and then forget it's there and enjoy.

post #3 of 9
I wouldn't let that bother me at that price level - bear in mind they are around half the price of the C&Js.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for the feedback, and Murlsquirl for moving my topic to the right place (I should have known it). So the consensus seems to be I should not be bothered with it, which is good to know.

 

However, given that I have been offered a free exchange for a new pair, do you think I should pay more to get a better pair? I can afford it, just don't know if a pair that is twice the price of the Loake 1880 can give me twice the quality/durability of the Loake? If a C&J benchgrade is only about 30% better in quality/durability then I will probably stick with this pair.

post #5 of 9
I see that welt finish on a decent amount of Aldens as well, that is not something with which I get overly concerned. If you are happy with the feel and leather, then keep them. There is often a return on investment in getting better shoes, and you'll probably have more life from the c and j. Are these shoes you want to wear for four years or eight?
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks Andrew for your input. And yes, I do plan to wear them for more than 4 years. I plan to put Topy on the sole so that I don't need to resole the shoes too quickly.

 

Many said that even with these 'entry level' shoes like Loak 1880 or AE, if you take care of them (rotate, polish regularly...) then they should last a very long time. I suppose if that's the case then any pair of shoes from $300+ will be just as durable as each other? 

 

Secondly, about comfortability, I heard someone said that after getting used to C&J and Church and Carmina, they cannot go back to Loake or Meermin any more. Is the difference that significant? I have a new pair of C&J and walking around the room I didn't see a big difference between it and this Loake 1880 pair. I wonder if the difference will be clearer when you have to walk for a few miles everyday?

post #7 of 9
I Topy my shoes as well, whatever quality, Loake to Edward Green. I also live in a country where it rains a lot!

The difference between the Loakes and C&J will be in the quality of the upper leather, the midsole, the finishing, etc. You can generally see what you are paying extra for on quality English shoes, but it is a law of diminishing returns - Loakes are likely twice as good as a pair of £100 shoes, but C&J/Trickers are better than Loakes, but not twice as good and Edward Green/Lobbs/G&G are better than C&J et al, but not twice as good. And it isn't necessarily about longevity, as I said, it's leather quality, fine stitching etc, etc.

The short answer is, yes, they are good shoes for the money, they will last a very long time if looked after not worn every day. If they were mine, I'd keep them, but the choice is yours.
post #8 of 9
With a good rotation and topy, they should last a goodly amount of time. Make sure to keep the uppers moisturized. It sounds to me like you are ready to keep them and I hope they serve you well for many years!
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for your advice. And yes, I not only keep them but also am buying another Loake 1880 pair!

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