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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

wow another person good at refuting strawmans

if you didn't even bother to read the articule why comment on this?
here bolded out part for you,
Author basically makes a point that only if we had other system like sortition brexit would likely not have happen.

He also made a point earlier
People don't vote the way I want(brexit/trump) = worst year for democracy since Hitler!!

You think this articule is fair and balanced discussion about our democracy?!! You're funny mate. Timing is also quite telling, even if the author didn't show his hand like he did.

The part you bolded: "What if this procedure had been applied in the UK last week? What if a random sample of citizens had a chance to learn from experts, listen to proposals, talk to each other and engage with politicians? What if a mixed group of elected and drafted citizens had thought the matter through? What if the rest of society could have had a chance to follow and contribute to their deliberations? What if the proposal this group would have come up with had been subjected to public scrutiny? Do we think a similarly reckless decision would have been taken?"

Is a reference to Greek direct democracy and a commonly advanced solution for problems identified with representative democracies. Once again, maybe the article came about due to the author being disappointed with the Brexit results but the suggestions are relatively expected and within the common range of representative democracy critiques.
post #362 of 383
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This article on the BBC gave me a chuckle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36723220
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The "hard Brexiters" are those want to act quickly and be gone. They want to curb European migration as quickly as possible, using a points system. They don't much value being part of the single market, and point out that just about every nation in the world has "access" to it, without being a member.

You can call this the "Canada lite" model if you like.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36775162

Sounds like an SF approved new resident at 10 Downing as her shoe passion is well known apparently.
post #364 of 383
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36775162

Sounds like an SF approved new resident at 10 Downing as her shoe passion is well known apparently.




Note: She's keeping the tabby cat I posted earlier so he gets to stay at 10 Downing.
post #365 of 383
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That cat has major sprez.
post #366 of 383
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post




Note: She's keeping the tabby cat I posted earlier so he gets to stay at 10 Downing.

Seriously? This is fucking ridiculous behaviour for an average woman let alone public political figure.
post #367 of 383
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Seriously? This is fucking ridiculous behaviour for an average woman let alone public political figure.

 

post #368 of 383
The coup d'etat against Boris failed miserably.
post #369 of 383
Who would have thought that GB will turn into a joke before USA?biggrin.gif
I see two scenarios here:
1. They setting him up for total failure. The guy who is poster boy of Brexit is going to be negotiating with EU and US...Let's see how that ends.
2. GB pivot to the East and starts trading with Russia ignoring now defunct sanctions. (US is not happy)
post #370 of 383
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Who would have thought that GB will turn into a joke before USA?biggrin.gif
I see two scenarios here:
1. They setting him up for total failure. The guy who is poster boy of Brexit is going to be negotiating with EU and US...Let's see how that ends.
2. GB pivot to the East and starts trading with Russia ignoring now defunct sanctions. (US is not happy)

 

post #371 of 383
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

The coup d'etat against Boris failed miserably.

Coup d'état? You mean Gove trying to fuck over his friend Johnson?
Edited by Fuuma - 7/14/16 at 1:09pm
post #372 of 383
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Coup d'état? You mean Gove trying to fuck over his friend Johnson?

And half of Boris' camp leaving to join him, so he couldn't become prime minister and Grove could take his place. Grove has now been fired and so has another minister, who supported Grove due to being untrustworthy and Boris has become Foreign minister.
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Good Morning America and welcome to the crazy world of protest democracy, good for you smile.gif
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Despite all the panic in the states, it still seems brexit was a worse decision that electing trump. But its fun to see a market so hell bent to prove brexit is a success
All major multi national corps bar google are thinking of relocating to europe. And google actually shelved its london camp project and only cryptically reiterated its commitment to london. Only ways london is surviving is if it agrees a freedom of movement deal, becomes a tax haven or europe implodes first...You can decide which is most feasible
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