No one seems to know the asnwer to my question, but it does not really matter.
I ordered a couple of pairs of Buttero Tanino from Upumo, the all black version and the off white baby calf version, these are the ones with laces and are lined. Both pairs were perfect.
However when it's come to the white calf Tanino I've had nothing but problems. Out of 6 pairs I ordered over the summer, 3 were returned because of wrinkles, 2 returned because of factory faults and only 1 pair were perfect but I flipped them as they were a half size to big. I just ordered another pair in the BF Sales and again they have this problem with wrinkling in areas on the heal out of the box. I hear what peeps are saying that they will wrinkle once you start to wear them but the company, but the heal is a low stress point area, you would not expect to see wrinkling there. It appears this company a really low threshold for Quality Control. It's a shame because I prefer them to Achilles and if they they could could only get their QC up, improve their branding and marketing they could be far more succesful than their current place in the market.