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Almost 50, athletic, short. Have money not time. Where to shop for evening/casual?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Generally off-the-rack is tough for me bacause of my short stockiness, but I have work clothes taken care of with tailor-made suits and slim-fit shirts.

I want nice clothes for going out. Reserved because of my age, but I don't want to go out in business casual either. What shops should I go to? What brands?

I'm leaning towards Prada or Barney's because they seem stylish and easy and they have in-house tailors. I also like the Italian look of Prada but I don't like the fashion-forward items there, I would just pick out basics.

Other than this I have no idea where to start. Please help!
post #2 of 13

Where do you live? That's important both in terms of where you can shop and the environment in which you will be going out?

 

Where do you plan on going out? How will other people dress?

 

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In general, I would avoid Prada and must of the fare you'd find at Barney's/NM/SFA. It is probably too fashion forward and trendy for someone your age, in the sense that it might look somewhat out of place on you. Which isn't a knock. I'm 30 and avoid those places for that reason (and others). If money really isn't an issue, and you want to build up a casual wardrobe, I strongly recommend No Man Walks Alone. Fast returns and free shipping.

 

Do you have 5-10 examples of outfits that you could see yourself in?

post #3 of 13

I might also steer you to brands like Nigel Cabourn, SEH Kelly, and Margaret Howell, which have a more subdued, heritage feel to them.  Otherwise, if you like something a bit more continental, brands like Barena and LBM might be good for you.  As @Claghorn said, showing us a few pictures of looks you like, or even blurting out the names of "style icons", might give a good idea of how to advise you.  Someone who says "Steve McQueen and young Marlon Brando" is going to get different advice than someone who says "Cary Grant", and even more different from "Mick Jagger and David Bowie."

post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 

Great questions.  I live in Chicago, and frequently travel to Europe.  My wife and I like to go to fairly trendy restaurants, plays at places like the Steppenwolf, cocktail parties with friends.  Sometimes meals out with other families of grade schoolers, usually at a sushi place or something similar.  Most of our friends are our age, plus or minus ten years. 

 

The men seem to dress ranging from Midwest casual jeans and polos to fashion-forward tight suits.  What I'm trying to upgrade is that I end up wearing Banana Republic pants and work shirts without a tie, maybe a tailored dark blue blazer, and Tod's shoes.  Daytime, I'll wear BR or Mott and Bow jeans (dark blue) and Lacoste polos or a decent sweater.

 

Whom do I want to look like?  That seems to be just as hard of a question as where to shop.  I don't even know how I should want to dress.  Al Pacino maybe?  I look sort of like a thicker version of him.  I'm open to ideas of where to look on the Internet.

post #5 of 13

I have no idea what Al Pacino wears, but this is what I imagine when I think of a respectable guy in his late 40s early 50s who cares about what he wears and doesn't want to look like he's wearing work clothes

 

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(from No Man Walks Alone)

post #6 of 13
I'm around your age, and take part in social occasions and dining opportunities which seem at least somewhat similar to the ones you mention. I'm not short, but that aside...

To the extent there's a "go to" place where I'd shop if I didn't have much time, but were willing to spend some money, it'd likely be Brooks Brothers. Suits, sport coats, pants, shirts, ties, belts, etc., are all available there, and most suit me pretty well.

I mean, in reality, I have a pretty complete wardrobe, so I don't have to worry about being short on time. If I haven't time to shop carefully, I can just put off shopping. And yeah, I know how I like to dress, and what sort of appearance I prefer, whereas you don't.

But still, if you're looking for a one-stop shop, Brooks should likely be high on your list.

I'd also suggest you leave your wife at home when you do this shopping trip. For a man who lacks a clear idea of how he wants to dress, bringing along the wife when buying clothes just sounds like a disaster in the making. Maybe not every time, but probably most of the time.

Better still, put off this shopping trip until you have a much clearer idea of just what sort of wardrobe you want.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by ParkerParent View Post

 

Whom do I want to look like?  That seems to be just as hard of a question as where to shop.  I don't even know how I should want to dress.  Al Pacino maybe?  I look sort of like a thicker version of him.  I'm open to ideas of where to look on the Internet.

Well, Al Pacino has been looking rather gaunt of late, so being thicker than him is probably a good thing.  

 

He tends to wear a lot of dark colors and often, when not in a suit - and I am making a bit assumption that you don't want to wear a suit casually - is often seen in black jeans, boots, and either a henley and sportsjacket, or a white shirt and dark knit, or a white shirt and sports jacket.  These are all pretty standard "creatives" uniforms.  You want to get a good, and if like Al, rather loose, fit, on all of the items, and you want the items to be of good quality.

 

Frankly, you could get most of this stuff from a Barneys.  Acne jeans might be a good brand for jeans.  White shirts - something like Rag&Bone might be good for both those and henleys.  No, they are not the must cutting edge brands these days, but they make decent things, and yes, you can approcimate Al Pacino's casual style that way.

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the advice. I think the button down and khaki colored pants maybe wouldn't look too great on me (I mean, imagine my skinny doppelgänger Al Pacino wearing that), and for the same reason I'm unsure about Brooks Brothers. It is maybe too American looking for smallish Mediterranean-looking me.

I do like the idea of not dragging my wife along.

That leaves me maybe with Barneys but I am afraid I'll end up looking foolishly wannabe fashionable.

Should I go hire a stylist or personal shopper? Or spend lots of time looking through middle-aged-men fashion sites and blogs for ideas? Is there such a thing? Any suggestions welcome for either.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by ParkerParent View Post

Thanks for all the advice. I think the button down and khaki colored pants maybe wouldn't look too great on me (I mean, imagine my skinny doppelgänger Al Pacino wearing that), and for the same reason I'm unsure about Brooks Brothers. It is maybe too American looking for smallish Mediterranean-looking me.

I do like the idea of not dragging my wife along.

That leaves me maybe with Barneys but I am afraid I'll end up looking foolishly wannabe fashionable.

Should I go hire a stylist or personal shopper? Or spend lots of time looking through middle-aged-men fashion sites and blogs for ideas? Is there such a thing? Any suggestions welcome for either.

Well, you don't  need a personal stylist, and honestly, and decent shop, their are personal shoppers, and any boutique, a good proprietor will help you out, though they often have their personal biases.  

 

Where are you based?  If you are in LA, NYC, SF, or Chicago, or some place like that, you are in luck.  Otherwise, if might be more hit-and-miss.  

 

I'll tell you what?  I can just make a few recommendations for things that you can get online, though for a brand new beginner, I really do think that trying on in store is a really good idea, since you don't have as much experience with sizing, judging, etc... the way you do with tailored clothing.  If you end up getting a bunch of what you really like, you can send me a nice cardholder or something if you feel so inclined.

 

I am going to stick to places I know that have exemplary shipping and free returns, since you may need those.  For me, villified though it is, Mr. Porter and Matches Fashion are chief among those, with Mr, Porter having the benefit of being stateside.  

 

http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/isaia/slim-fit-pin-dot-cotton-shirt/633617?ppv=2

Isaia pindot shirt

 

http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/rag_and_bone/striped-cotton-shirt/648305?ppv=2

 

Dries van noten: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/dries_van_noten/corbin-slim-fit-cotton-poplin-shirt/677181?ppv=2

 

Gitman Vintage:

http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/gitman_vintage/slim-fit-button-down-collar-cotton-oxford-shirt/690829?ppv=2

 

 

Canali: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/canali/linen-shirt/637008?ppv=2

 

Steven Alan: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/steven_alan/cotton-moleskin-shirt-jacket/586583?ppv=2

 

Levis Vintage Clothing: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/levis_vintage_clothing/1967-505-slim-fit-selvedge-denim-jeans/661018?ppv=2

Ron Herman:

 

 

 

 

 

Lanvin: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/lanvin/panelled-leather-chelsea-boots/565499?ppv=2

 

Burberry: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/burberry/suede-wingtip-brogues/647977?ppv=2

Margiela: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/maison_margiela/black-slim-fit-herringbone-wool-and-linen-blend-blazer/636298?ppv=2

 

 

Caruso: http://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/caruso/black-unstructured-wool-blazer/649528?ppv=2

post #10 of 13
This feels like a brainstorming session. What about navy moleskin pants or narrow-wale corduroys? It's usually easier for a stocky older guy to look sharp-dressed and not cliche in those than in jeans. Also, a high-end cashmere sweater wouldn't hurt.

Neiman Marcus might be worth visiting.
Edited by mensimageconsultant - 6/16/16 at 2:11pm
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks LA Guy, I love your picks.  I think I'll go on MrPorter and buy some now.  I'm in Chicago, by the way.

 

I guess I will hit up Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus as well.  

post #12 of 13
You're going to have to try on all of those suggestions in person. As much as the Margiela aesthetic appeals to me, I haven't found a jacket that compliments my body type. Caruso is markedly different with a more structured chest and shoulder. Short and stocky guys will probably do better with a Caruso or Barena Venezia rather than a MMM or Dries Van Noten.
post #13 of 13
I have you tried Sid Jerome on LaSalle? They happen to be friends, but will have great options and can work with you in person to see what looks best.
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