Skinny guys.

UPDATE:

I've been on this program now for 2 hours and 15 minutes so I thought I'd give an update on my progress. Wow, fasting is hard. I'm hungry. Took my green tea, EC, and had a cup of coffee. Man, when will this hunger go away? I'm already starting to lean out; my pants are dropping off and all my major lifts went up 5 pounds.

^ Dude, I bet you look HYOOOOGE!!!

I wish I had known that fasting involves eating so little before I started this program.

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I hate how there are no pictures of his legs.

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It really does get easier once you get used to it.

And I figured that anyone with a 3xBW deadlift would not have neglected his legs. I wonder what the status of his book is...

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It really does get easier once you get used to it.

And I figured that anyone with a 3xBW deadlift would not have neglected his legs. I wonder what the status of his book is...

On the blog he said LMcD got pissy (surprise!) so the book is on hold. Not sure why he needs help or a co-author to publish an ebook other than the credibility it would bring.

I think he is taller than you realize. In one of the threads he said his arms are between 15 and 16 inches depending on his status (of course that is at ~6% BF so they look good in photos). He does squat and below parallel in the video I saw.

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On the blog he said LMcD got pissy (surprise!) so the book is on hold. Not sure why he needs help or a co-author to publish an ebook other than the credibility it would bring.

I think he is taller than you realize. In one of the threads he said his arms are between 15 and 16 inches depending on his status (of course that is at ~6% BF so they look good in photos). He does squat and below parallel in the video I saw.

McDonald is either a smart ass or a total ass who is smart, depending on the day.

Funniest part of those threads is the members commenting on how good looking Berkhan is then quickly adding "not gay."

On the 600 X 3 dead, the bar went up pretty damned easily.

lefty

This is not even attractive to Gay men, I don't see what Women would like about it.

As with a runway show, the examples are extreme. Take what good you can from it but very few aspire to be like that in 'real life' and not many find it generally appealing.



UPDATE: my lifts are up another 5 pounds and I'm down a pant size

Originally Posted by lefty

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Scroll down to The modeling days: age 19-22.

This would be what ... toned?

lefty

"˜Well Cut', or "˜Pretty Ripped' would be better terms, IMHO. After all 165 is hardly "˜skinny'.

Jon.

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"˜Well Cut', or "˜Pretty Ripped' would be better terms, IMHO. After all 165 is hardly "˜skinny'.

Jon.

Depends on your height and body type. Anyway, I think the correct term for that particular picture is "weakling with low body fat."

I'm hopping on this in a couple of weeks when I'm done vacationing. I've sent the guy an email and he offers two quite reasonable packages. If you read through the threads you should probably be able to make a decent meal plan for yourself, but I'm probably giving the short term package a try just to get the details right from the start.

so if im reading this right, the basic idea is that he fasts for 16 hrs a day and the 8 hrs he eats?

The easiest summary posted so far...

Fasting period lasts 16 hrs. This means you initiate your first meal 16 hrs before eating the last meal on the night before (which is easily done by skipping breakfast and lunch). Thus, ideally all eating is done within an 8 +-1 hour timeframe. Most do well with 3 meals, but some may even prefer 2 or 4. In order to have a steady supply of amino acids in your blood during the fast, I suggest the last meal consists of whole foods and some slow digesting protein (cottage cheese for example).

non-WO days: only lean protein and veggies (max 100 g carbs). Stay in the 1200-1500 kcal range and include 60-90 min of low intensity cardio. Kcal intake on these days is set to approximately 50% maintenance for most males.

WO-days: have a moderate sized meal of 50-60/50-60 carb/pro (minimum fat) pre-WO (approx 450-550 kcal). PWO-meal is ideally a high carb, moderate protein and low fat refeed. Kcal target for this day should be around maintenance+25% with the absolute majority of kcals eaten PWO. General guidelines for this day is (at least) 1 g protein/bw and 2 g carbs/ bw, and then you may fill out with whatever macronutrient you want to a certain degree. Ideally, emphasis should be put on carbs while fat intake is kept low; these conditions are the most favourable in order to prevent fat storage and optimize glycogen storage.

For the recomp protocol to work effectively, you need to balance the surplus days with the deficit days. This means that an EOD workout routine is ideal for those wishing progressive lean gains accompanied by fat loss. 2-3x week WO routines delivers faster results for people with bodyfat loss as a main priority.

Hey guys, it's a new program! Let's all try it because we're sure to get the same results as the guy who's making money off of the idea! Who cares about persistence... this is next level ****!

Cramming calories into an 8 hour window or a few meals may be easier for some than spreading them throughout the day.

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I totally agree. It's way easier for me to run 20 miles in 3 hours than it is for me to run 5 miles in 6 hours.

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Hey guys, it's a new program! Let's all try it because we're sure to get the same results as the guy who's making money off of the idea! Who cares about persistence... this is next level ****
Hmmm, so far my total cost has been $0. I hope I don't get hit with interest on it all when the bill comes due. I like that it discounts the necessity of 6 meals a day and I can stick to whatever plan I choose... if you read about it instead of discounting the bandwagon, you'd see the logic and technique behind it is nothing new to the world of TKDers, PSMFers, carb cyclers, etc.