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post #1 of 67
12/29/07 at 11:35am
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This is worth a read. Kid goes from fat ass to skinny model to pretty damn built by doing the opposite of what everyone advises -- fasting for 16 hours a day. He also has a 3X BW deadift. lefty
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post #2 of 67
12/29/07 at 12:01pm
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This is worth a read.

Kid goes from fat ass to skinny model to pretty damn built by doing the opposite of what everyone advises -- fasting for 16 hours a day.

He also has a 3X BW deadift.

lefty

Didn't know 'roids could work in conjunction with anorexia like that.
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post #3 of 67
12/29/07 at 2:21pm
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He weighs 196 lbs. Hardly evidence of steroid use.

Smart kid. Did the research. Found what works for him.

lefty
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post #4 of 67
12/29/07 at 2:27pm
^He doesn't look nearly built-up enough for me to assume that he took steroids. His baseline weight seemed to be about 180. In the last pics he's 195 or so. That's not an unbelievable amount to gain.

I don't think his approach is as extreme as some people think it sounds. He's basically just taking common nutrient-timing thinking and condensing it to consume all his daily calories in a relatively small window around his workout. I'm not sure if his approach is significantly better than "normal" schedules: it's just a more convenient way for him to get in his calories without worrying about eating all the time. It seems to work for him.
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post #5 of 67
12/29/07 at 2:49pm
I never read into intermittent fasting yet, but I've heard stories of great success from it. That really doesn't surprise me in the least, but to suggest something I haven't researched to someone would be foolish on my part.
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post #6 of 67
12/29/07 at 2:55pm
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I don't think his approach is as extreme as some people think it sounds. He's basically just taking common nutrient-timing thinking and condensing it to consume all his daily calories in a relatively small window around his workout. I'm not sure if his approach is significantly better than "normal" schedules: it's just a more convenient way for him to get in his calories without worrying about eating all the time. It seems to work for him.

It does fly in the face of the "you have to eat every two hours and load cottage cheese at three in the morning if you want to put on muscle" t-nation stupidity.

As you mention, the bottom line is that he found what works for him and more importantly what he could stick with over the long term.

The key to any body recomp.

lefty
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post #7 of 67
12/29/07 at 7:16pm
Um, where does the 'skinny' part come in?

Jon.
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post #8 of 67
12/29/07 at 7:30pm
The guy looks better in his fat phases than his lean phases.
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post #9 of 67
12/29/07 at 7:57pm
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Um, where does the 'skinny' part come in?

Jon.

Scroll down to The modeling days: age 19-22.

This would be what ... toned?

lefty
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post #10 of 67
12/29/07 at 8:05pm
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The guy looks better in his fat phases than his lean phases.

And the Bill's M2s are a slim cut.

There aren't many ways to get to a 5.5% BF while maintaining a 3XBW deadlift. This kid found one.

It's worth a read.

lefty
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post #11 of 67
12/29/07 at 8:12pm
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I don't think his approach is as extreme as some people think it sounds. He's basically just taking common nutrient-timing thinking and condensing it to consume all his daily calories in a relatively small window around his workout.
Yeah, considering he's sleeping for 8 of those hours, then he's just not eating during an 8-hour window of the day. Personally, I wouldn't be able to consume my caloric requirements for gaining in 3 meals, unless I ate at McDonald's all day. Obviously, his genetics and metabolism are coming into play. But good for him. I'm sure there's a bunch of people in his situation that might use the plan to their advantage. Edit: I hate how there are no pictures of his legs.
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post #12 of 67
12/30/07 at 9:56am
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This is worth a read.

Kid goes from fat ass to skinny model to pretty damn built by doing the opposite of what everyone advises -- fasting for 16 hours a day.

He also has a 3X BW deadift.

lefty

Thanks for linking to this. I'm and old BB.com member (4k posts) but I don't go there any longer and I missed the IF discussions. I'm intrigued since I do TKD with occasional fasts and a majority of cals post workout anyway (35% bf > 17% now). I've been grazing the threads in the various fora since you posted yesterday and I'm going to give this a try for a few weeks as I read more.
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post #13 of 67
12/30/07 at 11:12am
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Hoff,

there are a few large threads on mcdonald's board that you may want to check out.

lefty
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post #14 of 67
12/30/07 at 11:58am
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Hoff,

there are a few large threads on mcdonald's board that you may want to check out.

lefty

Thanks for the pointer, those are the best discussions so far.

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IF is closer to a targeted ketogenic diet thing but with more drastic caloric alterations

heh, not too much of a shift from what I already do.



...edit: a tidy summary from the OA

The major benefits of IF as I see it:


* Potent appetite suppression up until the first meal. This is also the reason not to space meals evenly; once you start eating, you find yourself hungry for more.


* Increased attention and focus 12-16 hours after the last meal. This probably ties into catecholamines being released after some time in the fasting state. I usually study in the morning and relax when I get to the eating. Eating activates the parasympathetic nervous system, which may partly explain the lessened desire to engage in any cognitive or mentally demanding tasks after eating (well, for me at least).


* An easy and simple approach to calorie deficit, allowing substantial meals (800 kcals+) to make up for the low meal frequency.


* No need to get neurotic about meal timing, eating every 2-3 hours etc.


* The partitioning effect. Strategically placing refeeds, or a large part of the total daily intake after WO (75% of kcal PWO), seems to have a significant impact on LBM gains. I can now not only speak for myself, but other people as well.
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post #15 of 67
12/30/07 at 12:18pm
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It also can provide a new approach for the "ectos" who seem to have trouble with constant eating. Cramming calories into an 8 hour window or a few meals may be easier for some than spreading them throughout the day. Hence the title, Skinny Guys.

Look forward to hearing about your results.

lefty
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