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post #16 of 25
Black tie wedding at a winery...I bet it's during the day, which means the event itself is breaking the rules, so I would wear the cream trousers. The cream trousers would add a touch of daytime appropriateness compared to all black. These days, I doubt everyone is going be dressed in 100% correct black tie anyway and it's not like you're asking if you can wear your dress crocks to the wedding.
post #17 of 25
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Black tie wedding at a winery...I bet it's during the day, which means the event itself is breaking the rules, so I would wear the cream trousers. The cream trousers would add a touch of daytime appropriateness compared to all black. These days, I doubt everyone is going be dressed in 100% correct black tie anyway and it's not like you're asking if you can wear your dress crocks to the wedding.

Black tie at a wedding is wrong full stop. It's either morning suit or lounge suit. Anything else is, in effect, a fancy dress party.
post #18 of 25
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Black tie at a wedding is wrong full stop. It's either morning suit or lounge suit. Anything else is, in effect, a fancy dress party.


So not the point.

post #19 of 25
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Black tie at a wedding is wrong full stop. It's either morning suit or lounge suit. Anything else is, in effect, a fancy dress party.

If we're talking formal evening wedding then you're 100 percent wrong.
post #20 of 25
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Black tie at a wedding is wrong full stop. It's either morning suit or lounge suit. Anything else is, in effect, a fancy dress party.

Saying things are wrong full stop that are dependent on location sort of negates that full stop thing, doesnt it? An evening formal wedding requesting people to wear morning dress seems a bit incongruous...

post #21 of 25
I expect most of the responses above are from the US, where I suppose a degree of flexibility of formality comes into the equation, however, just to be crystal clear:

- the original poster asked about attire for a wedding. This means the event should be starting around midday or shortly thereafter and, as such, morning dress is the appropriate form for the ceremony and the breakfast thereafter. There are no real exceptions to this.

- evening parties are outside the scope of wedding attire. By this point everyone has retired, got changed, and returned. I suppose the dress code can be whatever the happy couple so deem from this point.

- I reiterate, a DJ would be hideously inappropriate attire and in bad taste for a wedding ceremony, other than in some sort of novelty environment.
post #22 of 25
You're making a huge assumption about the time of the wedding there. I've been to loads of evening weddings.
post #23 of 25
I think everyone is assuming it's going to happen during the day, because the description says it's going to happen at a winery.
post #24 of 25

For me, it's all about the invitation saying "black tie". We can argue that traditionally it's wrong to do black tie during the day, how formality levels should differ on a winery or in different countries, etc. etc. etc.

But the main point for me is that you are being invited to an event by people for whom it is a tremendously big deal. They want you to wear black tie. The respectful, polite thing is to do it. You could argue with them that they should change to strollers or morning wear to be more "appropriate" during the day or you could argue with them that if they want black tie, they should hold it after 6 PM/in the night. Or you could recognize you're a guest, it's not about you, it's what they want to do.

The rest, to me, is completely secondary to being polite and respectful. You may feel differently about that or how you express that, of course. As the internet would say: YMMV.

post #25 of 25
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For me, it's all about the invitation saying "black tie". We can argue that traditionally it's wrong to do black tie during the day, how formality levels should differ on a winery or in different countries, etc. etc. etc.

But the main point for me is that you are being invited to an event by people for whom it is a tremendously big deal. They want you to wear black tie. The respectful, polite thing is to do it. You could argue with them that they should change to strollers or morning wear to be more "appropriate" during the day or you could argue with them that if they want black tie, they should hold it after 6 PM/in the night. Or you could recognize you're a guest, it's not about you, it's what they want to do.

The rest, to me, is completely secondary to being polite and respectful. You may feel differently about that or how you express that, of course. As the internet would say: YMMV.

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