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Identify hat type

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Hi everyone,

 

Hopefully, this is the right place to post this request. I was just wondering if anybody could identify

what type of hat this is.

 

post #2 of 5
It is a flat-crown, flat-brim hat. I don't know the exact terminology, but this style was very popular in the 19th century. Just for fun, I had one made up for me, but I thought I looked kind of silly in it and relegated it to service as a rain hat.
post #3 of 5

I believe that the hat pictured is commonly known as a pork pie hat. 

Example 1

Example 2

Link to costumer's institute with historical hat names and images

post #4 of 5
I thought a "porkpie" in the modern usage had a narrower brim, higher crown and usually softer construction than the hats in the OP's posts.
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

I thought a "porkpie" in the modern usage had a narrower brim, higher crown and usually softer construction than the hats in the OP's posts.

 

From the cursory research that I have done, there is some variation in what qualifies as a "pork-pie hat", depending on the time period.

 

I have included a screen shot from the ad which shows the hat from a different angle.  The crown tip ( a.k.a. the top) of the hat is not completely flat. There is a crease along the edge.  It is the presence of the crease that distinguishes it as a pork-pie hat. The pic posted by the OP is a still from the Stella Artois "Be Legacy" ad campaign.  The short film/advert. is set in the early 1700's.  I can only assume that the costumer attempted to dress the cast in a historically accurate attire as possible.  

 

There is conflicting information about when this style of hat first became known as a pork-pie hat.  According to an online etymology website, there is documentation of the existence of pork pie, the food, as early as 1732.  The earliest documentation of the term pork-pie hat was in 1855.

 

 

 

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Also, here is a picture of a pork pie, courtesy of wikipedia.  See the vague resemblance? 

 

Cheers,

 

Clive

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