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post #31 of 47
thanks. not yet acquired but i´m madly lusting after them........
post #32 of 47
quick question on sizing.
i had purchased a pair from the church's store on madison two years ago - the shoes are marked 8.5 inside.
are these 8.5 US or 8.5 UK?
post #33 of 47
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Originally Posted by tonup277 View Post
quick question on sizing.
i had purchased a pair from the church's store on madison two years ago - the shoes are marked 8.5 inside.
are these 8.5 US or 8.5 UK?

This will almost certainly be the UK size. Written in ink by hand, right?
post #34 of 47
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Originally Posted by Salsalocust View Post
Ermmmm?...... that is of course...... an opinion .

This,on the otherhand, is a photograph:

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Church "Sherborne" 130 last

Those are the best-looking Church's I've ever seen, I have to admit.
post #35 of 47
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Originally Posted by cimabue View Post
This will almost certainly be the UK size. Written in ink by hand, right?

I'm not sure that's necessarily true. For as long as I can remember shoes sold in the US stores are marked in US sizes. The UK equivalent is half a size smaller I think , I'll have to check mine bought in the UK years ago.
post #36 of 47
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I'm not sure that's necessarily true. For as long as I can remember shoes sold in the US stores are marked in US sizes. The UK equivalent is half a size smaller I think , I'll have to check mine bought in the UK years ago.

Yep the ones I bought in the UK a very long time ago are 10.5C on the 73 last while the ones purchased in the US over the last 25 years are 11C on the 73. I believe shoe size comparisons are a bit of an inexact science but these seem exactly the same to me. I haven't bought a pair of shoes in England for a very long time because of the one width fits all policy which seems to prevail and I have a narrow foot.
post #37 of 47
interesting replies, not sure which is the definitive answer.
yes, the shoes i bought at the madison shop had the hand-scripted size printed on the inside, marked 8.5F.

reason why i ask is i'm interested in purchasing another pair from a UK source off ebay, but unsure if i should go 8.5UK or 8UK. assuming the ones i got from madison are 8.5US, then certainly i'd go 8UK.
post #38 of 47
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Originally Posted by cimabue View Post
Written in ink by hand, right?
I believe the size is stamped into the sole near the heel as well. ie. 7F is a 70 and a F.
post #39 of 47
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Originally Posted by John Ellis View Post
I've been buying Church's custom grade for 45 years. I have pairs over 30 years old.
Do you have pre-Prada Church Masterclass in that collection as well?
post #40 of 47
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I've been buying Church's custom grade for 45 years. I have pairs over 30 years old that have been factory repaired several times and look excellent. I think the last shape was 73 and in all I must have about 15 pairs of different models. I never liked their Monkstrap-the buckle is to prominent. When they were acquired by the Italian handbag company and then subsequently sold to a private equity firm I feared the worst but although I haven't bought a pair for probably five years the quality looks pretty good to me. They are still made at the Church's factory in Northampton so why shouldn't it be. They seem to have put all my old favorites like the Diplomat, Cromwell and Balmoral on a new square toed last and it gives the shoe a more modern look but which still looks very classic. I've noticed the prices creeping up, well you've got to repay all that debt somehow, and I think a pair in NYC is now around $750 which is approaching EG prices but I hear RL are soon going to be charging $1300 for their EG sourced product and this still makes the Church's something of a bargain. In fact I'd argue they've probably been somewhat underpriced relative to their quality. They get mixed notices here but I'm a fan as you can tell. They don't have quite the finish of the EG's and when I could afford it started buying some of his shoes but I'm very fond of my Church's.

I think there is much truth to this. The Church's bashing that goes on is mostly a product of forum group think, fuelled by our (rightful) collective hatred of Prada. I think Church's make some very fine shoes indeed and are severely underrated. The leather quality and construction of their top of the range shoes (with the oak bark soles) is far superior to any C&J Benchgrade and even surpass their Handgrades. The 002 last is also a very elegant last.
post #41 of 47
Yes, I will admit that I like Church's. I am glad that the 'Royals' range has been introduced (though the 002 does have a 'snout' to it) which are close to the 'Masterclass' range which I like. I believe the 'Royals' range are made from leather which is taken from the hind (which is best) and the finish is achieved by burnishing/antiquing/burnishing by hand. But, I am repulsed with the fact that a business was acquired for the name and the name on the whole has since been tarnished. I don't think a name should be reused once a business is sold.
post #42 of 47
One must keep in mind that John Lobb Paris is owned by Hermes. Yet few hold any such grudges against them for that.
post #43 of 47
I am aware of that and I am in that few. I wonder how well known it is. To me John Lobb is bespoke in London.
post #44 of 47
Hi Guys,

Haven't posted a Church for sometime.

This is a Church "Ninfield" on a slender 116 last

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Regards,

Graham
post #45 of 47
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Originally Posted by Salsalocust View Post
Hi Guys,

Haven't posted a Church for sometime.

This is a Church "Ninfield" on a slender 116 last

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Regards,

Graham

Now these are great shoes...
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